Dutasteride (Avodart) Hair Growth Success and Failure Stories

If you have ever taken Dutasteride (Avodart) to treat your hair loss, please leave a detailed testimonial in the comments to this post in order to help others.

I have written about Dutasteride (brand name Avodart) many times before on this blog. It was approved by the FDA in 2002 to treat benign prostatic hyperplasia (enlarged prostates). Although the drug has not yet been officially approved to treat hair loss in the US or EU (it was approved for that purpose in South Korea in 2010 and in Japan in 2015), there is a small chance that this could happen in 2015 or 2016 (Update: while this did happen in Japan, the US and EU were still holding off as of year-end 2016). This would be a huge development, since to date, only two drugs (Minoxidil in 1988 and Finasteride in 1997) have ever been approved by the US FDA for treating hair loss. It has been almost 20 years since the last approval of a drug to treat hair loss!

Based on many existing studies as well as anecdotal forum evidence, it is virtually guaranteed that Dutasteride will result in superior hair growth/regrowth in comparison to Finasteride for most people, but will also result in higher rates of side effects. However, these higher rates of side effects are unlikely to be drastic enough for the FDA to deny GlaxoSmithKline (GSK) permission to market Dutasteride for hair loss. One 2013 article that reviewed numerous recent Finasteride and Dutasteride related studies suggests a 5-9 percent chance of erectile dysfunction. In most cases, such side effects are not permanent, although some people have seen permanent problems even after complete cessation of drug ingestion. The big question is whether GSK will deem it worthwhile to produce and market Dutasteride for hair loss after analyzing potential revenue prospects (as well as potential losses based on recent lawsuits against Merck regarding Propecia side effects).

In the meantime, rather than wait for the FDA and GSK to make their moves, I have decided to write this post in which I hope to see comments from people who have tried to use Avodart to treat hair loss. Success and failure testimonials are both welcome. By now, there must surely be well over 100,000 men around the world who have used Avodart off-label to try to regrow hair (when the drug was first approved in 2002 to treat enlarged prostates, people on hair loss forums went berserk with excitement and were more than willing to try using it to regrow hair).

I hope to see many testimonials/comments to this post in the coming years. I will allow specific comments and concerns related to the drug itself, such as side effects, cost (including the cost of generic dutasteride), dosage and so forth. I hope that this post, due to the helpful comments/testimonials from you readers, ends up becoming one of the 5 most useful ones of all time on this blog. On hair loss forums, Avodart/Dutasteride related testimonials are usually either not broken out in a separate subcategory, or are not updated regularly.

It should be noted that older men who have taken Avodart to treat their enlarge prostates have sometimes noticed some hair regrowth in areas of their scalps that have been totally barren for many decades. You can read some of these testimonials in several of the below links. Regrowing long-lost hair is extremely difficult and akin to a miracle with existing treatments (which, when effective, usually only maintain your hair and, at best, regrow only recently lost hair).

Links of Interest




Note: Dutasteride is not meant to be used by women who are planning to get pregnant.

215 thoughts on “Dutasteride (Avodart) Hair Growth Success and Failure Stories”

  1. 28. Been on it 3 months after trying propecia for 8 months. Absolutely no effect other than thinning my body hair all over; hair continues to thin and recede fast. No REAL side effects, although lowered sperm count is fairly obvious. Libido unaffected.

    1. Make sure you are getting the real stuff. I’ve ordered from inhousepharmacy.vu for many years and all my hair is in my head! There are many sites that sell fake pills and take your money while you take glycerin or worse!

    2. Hi,

      I have just been advised by a Hair Transplant surgeon, that if you combine 1mg Finasteride Daily with 0.5mg Dutasteride Once A Week, you can expect re growth. He learnt this from a recent conference he attended, a hair specialist presented a paper which showed good results from combining Finateride regularly with just one capsule of Dutestaride per week on top.

      I’m yet to try this but am willing to give it a go and just stop the Dutestaride if there is no change or bad side effects.

      Dan

  2. I’ve been taking for just over a year 0.5mg ED

    pros:
    Hair is thicker, darker, better overall quality.
    No sides.
    Reduced body hair growth

    cons:
    Hairline is slightly below baseline ie not stabilized.
    Still have sheds.
    Reduced beard growth.

    Overall I’d give it a B-. Was hoping for some regrowth at the hairline or at the least stabilization but did not get it. However everywhere else seems to be stabilized and looks much better.

    1. Hi,
      I am suffering from hair loss for last 10 years. My crown is almost clear and remaining hair are too thin. Recently I came to know about Avodart .5mg. I am thinking to give it a try but I could not find any reliable online store where I can order it without prescription. Can anyone suggest me from where I can get it? I don’t want to see doctors now.

        1. Think you might just need to man up and face the little amount of embarrassment from going to the doctor or pharmacy in person otherwise you’ll never get your hair back

  3. Ive been on Avodart since last spring. Started with .5mg every other day and when I saw no benefit I upped it to (1) .5mg pill every day. Its now been close to a year and I cant say that ive seen any benefit. Hair still comes out, still thinning same as it did before I started Avodart.
    I was on Fin for years before and it did seem to help me keep my hair, but it began to wear off after several years, that’s why I decided to switch. The Avodart doesn’t appear to be helping .
    I have noticed some side effects. Im not quite as horny as I was a year ago. My energy seems to have dropped some. For awhile it seemed like it altered my blood pressure so that when I would stand up quickly I would get dizzy really easily. And for some reason I personally think that I look like Ive aged a couple years. I just look so much older after this last year. More wrinkles and skin looks dry and dull. Don’t know how that may be possible but I cannot think of anything else that would be the cause.
    So for me, Avodart hasn’t been the miracle cure I was hoping for 🙁

    1. And what’s your testosterone? What are your DHT levels? What is your SHBG? Your testimony looks rather like a typical internet hypochondriac scream without any real value.

    2. I had a very similar experience on dutasteride .5mg daily for 90 days. My equilibrium was thrown off and I would feel hypotensive after lying down and trying to stand. I think my estradiol was forced too low. I also noticed a lessening of body hair.

  4. I have quite a lot of info but will try to keep it minimal.

    Tried Finasteride a total of three or more times (each for about a year). Noticed NO EFFECT whatsoever on hair loss. However there was considerable ED the last time I took it.

    Discovered dutasteride, around 2002 and have been taking it ever since. Yes, that is 13 YEARS of virtually non-stop dutasteride. Only in the last year I’ve reduced it from 0.5mg/day to 0.5mg every other day.

    Dutasteride made a HUGE difference. I have a full head of hair which I would definitely not have if it wasn’t for that. I know this is beginning to sound like an ad but it’s my experience. The results came fast too. Within 2-3 weeks the shedding just stopped. I have noticed no side effects at all. Though I am concerned about the long term effects that it may cause. That’s one reason I halved the dosage (with the plan that should there be a severe shedding, I could step it up again).

    As far as acquiring it is concerned, I found a source that I trust. Once I even sent in a few samples from that source to GSK for them to test if they’re genuine (they appreciated my help and I appreciated theirs) and they confirmed that they were genuine.

    1. Hi adi. Having done a lot of research around avodart for treatment of hairless it does seem like the most promising way of maintaining a tho k head of hair. However, my problem lies with the cost. For 30 x .5mg tabs qhi.co.uk are charging over €70 including shipping costs. Looking at testimonials from this site and others it seems like .5mg daily is necessary for regrowth and €70 a month for me is a lot to be spending. Have you sourced any alternative reliable suppliers since who sell avodart cheaper?

      1. Hi,

        I’ve just bought the capsules today, but yet to try them, from here – https://www.oxfordonlinepharmacy.co.uk/mens-health/avodart-dutasteride-0-5mg-30-capsules

        £20.90 for 30 capsules but you need a private prescription or they can supply one for £25 and shipping was free.

        I’ve read on many forums, that if you are currently taking Propecia, which i am, then 1 tablet a week is enough to top things up. But don’t quote me on that 🙂

        Al the best

  5. I have taken Avodart for BPH for about five or so years now. I have definitely experienced frontal hair growth and thickening as well. My last passport picture taken a few months ago shows me with thicker hair than the one taken over 10 years ago.

  6. I’ve taken Dutasteride for about 8 years. Never any side effects, but I did go a bit loco about a year ago and was taking 2 mg day for awhile and did begin to get the dreaded Gynomastia, but I reduced back to 1mg every other day and it went away in a couple of months. My hair stopped falling out the first months I took it, and now I have a very full head of hair. There were places where it had thinned before (started in College), that never came back, but that just shows that when you lose it, it’s gone forever. Also, my hair went gray, the area on top and front where I assume I would’ve been bald, kept my brown color, that’s why I gathered it had something to do with the use of Dutasteride.

  7. I’ve used Dutasteride for about 5 years (fin for 10 years before that). The Dut stopped my hair loss completely, and regrew maybe 15% of what I’d lost previously. I probably have 75% of the hair I had when I was 12. It’s a great drug. No side fx (save for lowered libido, but I don’t care about that).

      1. Hello all,
        Is this really a only male chat/page?
        Rose indeed are you a female? I am actually one myself and started to take avodart daily since 1 month. I would really hope to be exchanging with female experiencing these things like me and find the best cure/solutions if any.
        I have seen my hair thinning for about 3 years and since last year really falling out, so started to get really scared and feeling very depressed.
        3 years ago I did try minoxidil for less than a year and it did some effects but back then the idea of doing this spraying everyday for the rest of my life was running me nuts so I stopped and did extensions instead. Last year I suddenly noticed I really lost a lot of hairs and had really much less on the head on the front and side lines and on the back of my head. I was tested for low ferritine and very light thyroid issue in March this year which I treat for 3 months with iron pills and thyroid pill, but didn’t see yet any improvements in my hair loss so I read all kinds of websites and experiences and chats and found out to give it a try to advert even though I am a female. I am not sure I see any difference now for a month, even though perhaps less falling. My goal is to get back hairs and thickness as I really do hate this thinning looking hair that flies off with every wind that blows and that you can see my head through.
        Any answer, suggestion, experience to share from someone on this?
        Thanks
        V

        1. This is definitely NOT only for males! 45 percent of my readers are female. I just assumed Rose was a guy because most ppl who take these drugs are male, and virtually all who discuss libido are male. Maybe I was wrong and Rose will come by again soon.

        2. hello every one!!
          I am Sissi ( yes a lady) I have the same issue but I my hair is almost total gone..I try Avodart for 3 months with no results at all only big side effect I get daily excruciated migraines headaches .so I stop now my hair its almost gone I start a massive shed a month ago month and now I only have about 10% hair left.. I am very depress almost suicide.. I try everything nothing stop the massive shedding…..good luck you all and god bless you a

          1. Hi Sissi. Please don’t be too downhearted. I know how depressing it can be. Have you tried Regaine (called Rogaine in some countries)? Perhaps also Proscar (which is the same as Propecia but twice the strength (and cheaper)). Best to use Regaine and Proscar together for greater effect. There are so many positive developments coming along so it’s only a matter of time before a cure is found. In the meantime stay positive and try the ones mentioned. Andy

        3. Hi, I’m female age 67 and have had beautiful thick hair all my life until 2.5 years ago when I began HRT after my ovaries were removed. That led to increased testosterone which made me feel great, but DHT issues resulted. Doctors told me I have androgenetic alopecia and would have had it eventually even without HRT. So 10 days ago I began .5 mg of Avadart generic Dutasteride daily. My breasts are somewhat enlarged, but I like that except that might mean breast cancer concerns eventually. The doctors said I have to take this the rest of my life to keep a full head of hair. They also gave me a topical treatment, hair vitamins and a clear hair shampoo. I use all of them as directed. Shedding has been less, but still losing a lot after shampoo. I was told it will take about 3 months to see the effect of the drug, and about 1 year to experience a full effect. My libido is less, and I’m a very healthy 67 with no problems with libido until now. I was wondering if I drop to .5 mg every other day if that will solve the libido problem and continue to block DHT. I hope other women will respond to this because there seems to be little research for women about this drug.

          1. Would love it if you would update us on your progress!!! Please. The one thing I read over and over again is people intermittently experience sheds while on Fin or Dut….but almost always they have CHANGED something in their process which causes it. Changing dosage, adding or deleting minox with the oral med. Something. Hair follicles like constancy. Really dislike change.

        4. V,
          I am a woman and I have the same issue. I have always had an amazing hair (Cindy Crawford like) but two springs ago I started seeing some spaces in mu front sculp which was a shock to me. ( both my mum and my father, 76 have amazing hair)
          I went to the best dermatologist/Tricologist) in Madrid, he did blood and orine analisys, took pictures with a special camera. He said that I had the ferritine low and vitamin D low, and he recommened me two products:

          1. Avidart 0,5mg once a day only on weekdays for 6 months.
          2. Keravit 2 a day for 6 months.

          I am now in month 5 of the treatment. I am not sure that the hair is regrowing in the front, certainly I do not have as much hair as I has before in particular in my front part but I think that I am not loosing more. I will go back to the doctor in March, and I will see what he says. I will keep you posted.

  8. Hi, never took Dutasteride but I started taking Finasteride (1mg) when I was 18, 7 years ago, and my hair stop falling and got thicker. Althouth I never had side effects I’m worried about the long term effects of this drug. So I’m thinking of reducing to 1mg Finasteride day in day out and taking Viviscal or other supplement like saw palmeto. I would like your opinion on that please.
    Also, I use Nizoral Shampo and use the I-Grow 2 day in day out.
    I’m positive that one day soon there will be a drug that stops hair loss without any risk of side effects.
    Best regards

  9. I am losing hair since Last one year.. First I took fincar fir 8 months n hair fall reduced but there was some bad hair days too…But I started dutas 4 months back and after 2 months of dutas my hair fall increased SOO MUCH… Anyone knows why…

  10. 31 Years old.

    Lost hair since I was 20 constantly. Started to take Avodart 1 1/2 year ago (.5 / day).
    After 1 month hair loss stopped completely.
    After 2 month my balls started to hurt a Little bit and sperm count was reduced significantly. Body hair growth reduced. But no other side effects (still as horny as ever).
    After 6 month I regained the hair that I lost during the last 2 years before use. Then regrowth process stopped (probably the hair I lost more than 2 years ago is lost forever).

    I then reduced dosis to 0.5 mg every 2 days, Still no hair loss, no other side effects than shown above.

    To sum it up:
    – Avodart let my hair re-grow to a status 2 years before first consumption (1 pill a day)
    – Avodart is able to keep this status stable with half Dosis (1 pill / 2 days)
    – Body hair growth reduced
    – Balls hurt sometimes and sperm count is reduced

    1. I got like a ball tingling feeling too, thought it was something serious but everything in ultra sound turned out ok, been taking for over ten years was wondering if I should switch to finasteride but worried I will experience dramatic hair loss

  11. Starting taking avodart 6 years ago, initially the hair loss accelerated and I thought, Christ what have I done. After a period of stabilisation, hair loss reduced and regrowth began. 6 years on and I have maintained most of my thinning mane. Definately body hair reduction and possible decrease in lambido…. Or is that old age !? I would definitely recommend 🙂

  12. My son, 20 yrs. old has been on Avodart for 11 months now and shows amazing results, which we saw very quickly. We have genetic balding that runs in the family through 3 generations and maybe more. Especially in the males and some of the females. Grandfather, uncles and cousins are all bald. My son, started to show signs at at age 17. We started to see the receding temples. He went to 6 Flags and got a bad sunburn on the top of his head, where the hair was thin. We knew we needed to do something or he would loose all of his hair. We talked about it and he decided to try something. At 18, I started doing research. He was on Finasteride for 8 months with very little results. We needed something better. So, I found Avodart. We buy it out of Canada. We also use Minoxidil with .5mg of Avodart daily. He has a full head of hair. I have seen it grow back and thicken from the top of his head moving toward the front of his forehead. We also, see little hairs growing at the hairline. He does not seem to have any side effects. I have asked him repeatedly. Don’t know what the long term side effects will be. But, we are happy now.
    It also has cleared up some acne, which is good.

  13. Can these medicines be taken without the prescription of the doctor? I have a big forehead and I’m also starting to lose hair. I’m getting conscious. Someone suggested hair transplant and I booked an appointment next week at Canadian hair transplant center(Toronto) which is nearby. I’m 33 and I need a forever solution.

  14. Hey admin, just wanted to let you know that after two years of fin (1year of it not working and having scalp pain) I got on dutasteride. I’ve been on it a month now (name brand avodart) and it hasn’t done anything what so ever for my shedding. I have zero side effects on the drug. No libido drop or raise for that matter, no brain fog, nothing. Hopefully setipiprant will be the answer because I seem to have a strong defense agains AA’s

  15. Have been using Avodart for about ten years. Definitely more effective than Propecia. Much improvement in front and back for first six years, leveling off and reversing a little during the past two or three years, but still much better than before. Pre-Avodart, wife wouldn’t look at my forehead with its sad sprigs of hair plugs. Now looks mostly not horrible.

  16. Hi
    am indian and a 35year old female. I have been using oral cntraceptive pills for the past six months to combat irregular and heavy menstrual flow.Am also taking isotretinoin but thats only 10 mg and just once in 4 days.Result – Skin has been clear ever since i started on ocp and isotretinoin. But hair has become thinner
    i dont think that isotretinoin is the reason as the dose is v.low.Maybe its the oral cntraceptive pills?what can i do to grow thicker hair,like i had in the past?can i take dutas?or should i just stop the ocp?i dont want to stop isotretinoin as its given me the kinda skin that i always wanted.
    Kindly help

  17. I have tried avodart 2 times in the past both times stopped after 1 month but by the end of the month both times I noticed hundreds of dark thin hairs sprouting on both temples they weren’t super thick but excellent sign I chickened out because of potential sex side effects and sex is very important to me now it’s been like 5 more years since last avodart dose ordered some through Canadian pharmacy was only 100 bux for 90 avodart including shipping part of me thinks maybe this is too good to be true price and I will be getting fake avodart is there any way I can tell if it’s fake avo? Then another part of me think yea maybe they can somehow avoid the regulatory scam ridden process of the U.S. pharmaceutical racket ?? We’ll see anyways I have extensive loss nw 5 pattern so hoping for the best this time and plan to stay on for much longer also interested in buying the pilox device still can’t find out how to order it

  18. Hi
    I have been taking fin for about four years, at first the result was amazing, but after 2 years my hair loss started. Recently I have mixed one pile of dut to my daily minoxidil (I still take fin) and after two weeks my hair loss reduced and I have experienced hair regrowth. But unfortunately now ,after a month of taking dut, I am experiencing hair loss again! I don’t know what happened, why it worked and then stopped working! Any suggestion or advice is greatly appreciated. Thank you.

  19. I’ve been on Avodart since about 2002, so about 13 years, Originally, my hair grew in about as thick as it had been about 4 years earlier. Since 2008 I’ve noticed it has slowly been losing it’s effectiveness. I’ve had no side effects. I take .5 mg M-F. I think it has worked well for me besides it’s losing it’s effectiveness over time. I am 52 years old now.

  20. Hey guys ,
    Today my first dose of Dut was swallowed by me with consultation of my doc ..I was at first thinking for fin prescription but he directly kept me on that dut..talking about the past, I have been on minoxidil (sometimes 5%sometimes10%)for the last 15 months .it certainly helped me with the frontal part and gave me a full head of hairs( probably enough to cover up) but not the looks that i used to have in my teenage(around19) and for that i turned to dutasteride….should be tolerated by my body well..fingers crossed for now ….and yes I am 21 now …I am for India and talking about the cost of minoxidil it cost me around Rs 2000(roughly $35) for 3 months refills (10% solution,including doctor’s consultation fee) and for dutasteride its Rs 270(roughly $4.5) for 30 tablets(0.5mg) and that in total means …its damn cheap …you guys should consider buying it from some Indian stores…considering the originality of minoxidil, my hair growth is an example …but for Dutasteride I can’t be sure as I am also starting the course today ..but i strongly feel it will help me a lot …..I would share my progress with you all in a mean while till then …..pray for those bald shiny heads ……don’t hesitate for any help from me …

  21. On Generic Dutasteride for the past 2 months. Took it thrice a week for the first two months and did not notice any effects. Started a daily dose since the previous month and after 4 weeks there is heavy shedding. Will wait it out for a few more months for a fair enough assessment.

  22. I have been on dutasteride 500 mcg a Day, for about two years before that I was on Finasteride for something like 4 years and it did slow the hair loss process. But I never got around medication that wasn’t generic so I couldn’t tell if I had the most out of Finasteride, at that time the hair loss was big so I decided to switch to Dustateride and it was really good, it completely stopped the hair loss and regrew some of the hair on my hairline. Now it is tricky to get a doctor to prescribe it to you in Australia, and I’m done with the online pharmacies selling generics…. do you have any idea on how to get Avodart in Australia or a reliable online source

  23. I have been using hair loss treatments since the age of 20 (I’m 40 now) starting with minoxidil which was rubbish. I then started using finasteride which stabilised my hair loss. At 26 I had 1200 hair transplant at the front as I was not experiencing any regrowth with finasteride. For the last 6 years I’ve been on dutasteride and not only have I kept all my hair but I have had huge regrowth and my hair now looks like it did when I was in my teens. You would never know I was ever losing it and these days I barely even think about hair loss. I have had no side effects. I take 5mg every few days and I buy from United pharmacies.

    1. Congratulations Scott and thanks for the feedback! I am now convinced that I should get back on Dutasteride (tried it for a very short time some years ago).

    2. Thats amazing. Do you use 5 or 0.5 mg? I know some use 1mg a day but 5 sounds like too high, and expensive.
      I been on Avodart 0.5 for 2 weeks, no bad side effects, sexual function has actually increased. Hoping to regrow some and im willing to up my dose.
      Bought my avodart in Manila over the counter at mercury drugs (theyre everywhere) no prescription needed at usd 1 per capsule.

    1. DRM Ltd. (Global Pharmacy) mate. Genuine GSK Avodart and very reliable. Just started ordering from them and have recieved 2 separate packages successfully. I’m praying the stuff works better than finasteride. Only problem is I read in a forum today that taking Avodart while recovering from a hair transplant can affect the new grafts and stop them from growing. This has to be incorrect surely?? Anyone ever heard or read about this?

      1. P.s I just had a read of my comment above and it looks like I am a Rep for that online company. I am not. You should try to get your Doctor to prescribe it to you if possible. Mine would barely prescribe finasteride to me so I didn’t even try him for Avodart.

      2. Haha Yeh This is incorrect cause new grafts are from permanant hair that doesn’t fall out becuase the follicles genitically block dht – and if anything adovart would help block the exisiting hair around the transplant site from falling out due to the anesthetic , shock loss and dht to the weaker hair

      3. I tried to buy it from here, but they are asking for a prescription from my doctor. Anywhere online that sells legit stuff w/out a prescription? Thanks..

    2. You can buy it when on vacation, sold without prescription over the counter in for example Turkey and Philippines, i assume also in for example Thailand and Cambodia. The full list would be long, very many countries sell prescription meds without prescription.

  24. using Avodart .5mg from 10 days and shedding decreased to some extent , before this i have used propecia and minoxidil for 8 months which triggered shedding badly. i am optimistic about this drug.

  25. Used fin for one year – stopped my hair loss untill month 3 then she’d all my hair from hairline and top —

    Switched to adovart and loaded 3 capsules a day (1.5mg) My hair shed stopped in 3 days and my hair on top of my head grew back thicker almost immediately…

    I dropped the dose after about 2 months to one capsule a day and my hair started shedding a little… I upped the dose then to two capsules a day and my hair was still shedding … So I stayed on 3 capsules a day …

    My hair after one year was thick and full but my hairline was still receding at a minimal rate.

    I stopped taking it all together and my hair remained the same for 4 months and then I started shedding really bad to the point I could see my scalp again.
    So I am back on them in the morning taking 3 capsules a day an this time I won’t stop.

    Side effects I experienced was my sperm count was reduced by half … I made sure I masturbated every day early on so i could make my body used to getting an erection still – this method is one I made up and Havnt researched if it works but in my head I wanted to make sure I could still get hard. Sometimes it was a little hard to release sperm but no pain and still a lot of sperm.

    The main side effect was weight gain – if u don’t exercise and eat clean you will start experiencing weight gain especially around the chest and stomach and I put on 7 kilos over the year of taking it as oppose to always being around the same weight

    Packs in australia cost about $26 from the chemist and ur gp can give u a prescription with a Max repeat of 14
    30 capsules in a pack lasted 10 days

  26. So. I have been using a combination of Avodart , Finasteride, Minoxidil and lastly Hairmax Comb. This treatment I listed has worked well for the last 4 years. Hair line recidation however does not benefit as much as everything else. When I say worked well I refer to increase in thickness and new hairs as well as keeping what was their to begin with. I personally advise anyone getting generic Avodart from inhousepharmacy to stop. They are a gamble 1/3 the time they will give you fake avo. I noticed this due to sometimes losing all benefits to regrowth from a different batch I ordered. I.E. Shedding to regrowth phases.

  27. Been on various strengths of Minox since 1988; was 28 when I started and I’m now 55 years. Combined this with Propecia for approx. last 20 years. I started this regime when I first noticed my hair start to thin slightly, so I have always maintained what would be considered as a good head of hair. About 10 months ago my hair started increased thinning, more than I can ever remember; typically 200 – 300 each time I showered ( I pat dry with a towel and then slowly and carefully comb my hair forward from the crown to the forehead). I figured that perhaps the effects of the treatments were waning due to time of use and my age. I started with Avodart approx. 8 months ago (0.5 mg/day), saw no change for the first couple of months and an increased shedding in months 3 and 4. I discontinued Propecia at around month 4 and reduced Avodart to every other day. In month 6 my hair loss completely stopped and started to thicken. I barely find a single hair in my comb now, and I would assess that I have more hair now than when I first started Propecia. I have discontinued Minox recently and will reassess in approx. 3 months.

  28. I am 63 y/o. I’ve used Fin for about 10 years then switched to Dut and have been using Dut for about 7 yrs. Dut is definitely better. I have been using Rogaine since the day it was available. I don’t think I’ve ever had any hair regrowth but the hair loss process has slowed drastically.
    The side effects have been: reduced semen amount by about 3/4, less body hair, almost no loss of libido.
    The lazer comb was worthless.

  29. hi guys,
    i’m back once again as i said earlier,after around 85 days(roughly 3 months) with great results from dutasteride …i’m on every other day schedule of it but then also i don’t find any regrets not taking daily dose…its like miracle for now…….my hair fall reduced to around 10-15 from 50-80(sometimes 150) every day ….now i’m watch for another 6 months for those new hairs growing on my head ….as i mentioned earlier i was also using minoxidil 10% ..but now i’m using 5%(2ml) at once every night ….if any one could please tell that should i go for daily dose or is it ok with e-o-d dose !!?? ( I’m not taking daily dose as i want to save it for future when dutasteride will loss its effectiveness)…
    THANKS IN ADVANCE……

    1. Hi Sunny, Could you please tell me the name of generic pill which you are taking for dutasteride? Is it Dutas .5 mg from Dr. Reddy or Duprost from Cipla?

      Please help me as I was having finpecia 1 mg for last 6 or 7 months and had very good results in the begining but in the last 2 months I noticed thinning and hair fall issues and waited for 1 month to see if it’s happening due to hair cycle but didn’t get see any improvement in hair thinning or fall.

      So now I have decided to switch from finpecia to finax 1mg to see if it works before moving from finasteride to Dutasteride. I wanted to give a try to Finasteride but with the different known brand in india. So now I am taking finax for last 2 days and will share the progress. Meanwhile please share the name of drug which you are taking for Dutasteride .5 mg.

      Thanks

  30. Taking dutasteride from the past 1 month and no effect. Infact I think hair fall is increase now. Should i stop taking this medicine or continue with this (As many of you has experienced heavy hair fall initially and then regrowth after some time). Please help

  31. I started using propecia (proscar cut in 4) around 2 years ago. I was lucky enough to notice my hair loss at an early age which drastically reduced the thinning. Over christmas this year I noticed I was still losing hair and was thinner then ever. After doing some research on forums, I learned that there is certain types of DHT that propecia can’t block, so I started using Avodart. As soon as I started using it the shedding stopped. For the first month I took one every day, and after that I started taking 2-3 every week. I alternate it with proscar. I felt no real psychological side effect but I always made sure to take it before I got bed and not in the mornings, because on a few occasions I’ve experienced low mood after taking proscar during the day. If you’re worried about the expensive price of these drugs I bought mine when I was on holiday in Turkey and its the fraction of the price with a pack of 30 costing under 10 GBP. Proscar is also ridiculously cheap. There are plenty of countries out there which don’t require prescriptions, so why not go out there on a short holiday and buy your meds at the same time..

    If you’re still not seeing any results I’d say keep taking it for another few months. You won’t grow your hair back but will definitely stop further loss! That is if there are no side effects of course. For me taking avodart and propecia help give me peace of mind because I know I’m doing everything I possible can. Hope this helps and good luck!

    1. No, average loss is 50-100 per day. And thinning depends a great deal on the regrowth of those follicles which shed, and the length of the growth phase. Hair loss generally is increased rate of shedding (unit hairs per day) plus a shorter growth phase…meaning they shed again after a shorter period of time. A normal growth phase believe it or not is 2-3 years.

  32. I’m 26 years old male, & had started losing a lot of hair since 20-21.
    I’ve started taking dutasteride (avodart) 500micrograms every second day & minoxidil (loniten) 5mg everyday, for about 4 weeks now.

    I can’t say I can see much difference now (other than excessive shedding from my head), but what I’ve been advised by my hair transplant surgen, that it is definitely the best way to go, if you want to keep the hair from falling out.

    I wonder if anyone has had a hair transplant surgery, whilst continuing using dutasteride? And is it worth it? I’m scheduled to have a transplant later this year, so I’m curious to see other people comments/experiences.

    Thanks & good luck to everyone !

    1. Hi Val,

      I was using 1.66 mg/day proscar and minoxidil up until last last year when I got sick of using the minox and decided to get a HT to fill in temples. I slowly tapered off the minox and stopped about 5 weeks before the surgery. I wanted the surgeon to put grafts into my midscalp but he said it was too early and that the area was not thin enough. He then asked me to consider Avodart instead as he was confident that it would thicken up the midscalp nicely. I replied that my GP wouldn’t prescribe avodart and that I would continue to take the proscar.

      I had my head shaved for the HT and after about a month I noticed that the hairs in my midscalp area were extremely slow to grow back. This is when I decided to start using avodart as it became abundantly clear that minox was the thing that was helping these thin hairs to grow.

      I’m about 4.5 months post HT and ive been taking 0.5 mg/day avodart for about 3 months. I have yet to see any regrowth or thickening. I have noticed that my native hair at the very front, just behind where my grafts were placed, has thinned slightly – this is a major worry for me as there are a lot of stories out there about accelerated frontal thinning after starting avodart. I hope that this ‘thinness’ is because of stopping the minoxidil as I’ve heard it can be 8-12 months before the hair goes back to the way it would’ve been if I hadn’t used minox at all.

      I really hope avodart thickens my existing hair but that has not been the case after 3 months use. I will continue to use for minimum 1 year before giving my final opinion.

  33. I had a hair transplant about 10 years ago. At that time I started avodart .5mg daily and took it for 9 years with no side effects. The HT along with the avodart pretty much stabilized my hair loss. During that time If you would look at me you wouldn’t think I had a hairloss issue. I went off avodart about 9 months ago and started generic propecia about 9 months ago and now I notice a significant difference. It looks like I’ve lost considerable hair in the front even in the frontal 3rd where the transplant was done. Is it possible that by switching from avodart to propecia I would lose a lot of the benefits from the 9 years of Avodart? Others have noticed it too. Also if I were to go back on Avodart would I regain that which I have seemed to lost over the last 9 months? Not sure if I switch back. I’m also looking into another HT in the front. I had some online consults. Most of the docs came back with ranges from 1500-2300 grafts. received about 3200 in my 1st one. Thanks

  34. Hello, Wanted to give my 2 cents, as im reading this blog here pretty often, I usually never talk about my hair loss.
    34, male
    Started propecia at 21 , stopped sometime for 2 years
    Taking dutasteride now since 2 months , been on propecia (original) since about 4 years when I got my 1000 graft transplant done.
    I’m having positive results with 0,5 dutasteride every 2 days, so about 3-4 pills a week, my hair is growing stronger and darker, I also see new hairs in the temple region coming, will update in 4 months. All in all very pleased about Duta results !

  35. On the comment before with Rita I meant Duta (Admin: Corrected, and thanks for your great comment!) Sorry for the mistakes. Wanted also to say that my girlfriend got pregnant as I was on finasteride. My daughter is 3 and perfectly healthy ! Hopes this helps for the paranoia 🙂

    1. might not have been same result if fetus was male. I think the chief concern is that it can feminize a male fetus if DHT is blocked.

      1. In theory, at least, the effect of Dutasteride on a chromosomally male child could mimic the genetic condition “5α-reductase deficiency”.
        What happens here is that what appears to be a girl baby is born, who grows into a happy little girl, but then at the age of puberty, “she” turns into a young man (healthy, sexually functioning, and fertile).

        There is a community in the Dominican Republic where the gene for this condition is quite common, and everyone seems to have accepted it as fairly normal.

  36. Where do you get Avodart from? I am located in the US and my doctor will not give me a prescription for it. I want to make sure I am getting the legit drug, and am a little suspicious about ordering from a random website.

    Any advice? Thanks.

  37. I posted in 2015. My son is taking .5 mg of Avodart. Well, we thought Avodart would keep all of my sons hair from falling out. We were hoping it was a miracle cure. It did help, in the beginning. I believe he would have lost more hair, if he did not take the avodart

    He will be 21 this summer. He does have hair on the top, but it is staying thin. I see it has stopped helping.

    I am sure with the strong genetic gene of hair loss that runs in the family, he would have to increase the dose.

    I read above PIRANHA 32 is taking 3 pills (1.5mg) daily. Don’t know, if we will go in that direction. We will talk about it and then decide. I would like to know how old PIRANHA 32 is. Please respond.

    I also read about someone taking Finasteride with the Avodart.

    We will be going to the doctor next month. We will talk to him.
    Just don’t know about the side effects of taking a higher dose.

    1. What an awesome mother you are!! I wish my mom foresaw this hairloss and got me started on this stuff before I already started losing it and then realized on my own.

      Anyway, where are you receiving your prescription from? I am in the US and cannot get my doctor to prescribe it for hair loss. Any chance you know of a reputable site online that does not require an RX?

      Thanks.

  38. Does anyone know of any doctors in NYC who would prescribe this for hair loss, or know of a reputable site that would send it without the prescription?

    Thanks!

  39. Hi,

    I found a place that has prescription strength minoxidil (12-15% concentrate) with little to no alcohol. Before purchasing, has anyone tried a similar product and have any results to share?

    Thanks!

  40. I started my hair loss at 21. My barber mentioned it and I said he was lying. He stared at me and said “Oh you are going to have trouble with this.” He was 100% correct. The hair loss really started going at about 25 and it significantly effected my looks and self esteem. Some guys actually better bald (ex Jason Stathum – LOL His hair sucked!). Unfortunately I do NOT come close to Stathum.
    So at 45 yr old I’m at stage 4 on the Norwood chart. I started with Rogain and hated every minute of it. I had some results at the crown of my head but I also had MEGA SUPER POWERED DANDRUFF!! It was like my head was throwing dust at people. I hated that stuff. When Propecia came out I was all in. I had to drive 4 hrs to find a doc to prescribe it. I took it on and off for about 5 yrs and had good results – particularly in the crown area. A fiancee convinced me to stop because she was worried about side effects. I took it 3 months in secret before I finally gave in. OMG!!! Within a month or two (or very soon) all the gains (hair) fell out and I had a gaping bald spot!!! Thanks Tammy!
    Now I’m starting Avodart 0.5mg. I have been on it for about a week and so far so good. I don’t take any meds so I’m hoping there will be no bad reactions. Sadly I have NOT had sex this week so the semen level ~ NOT sure yet. No difference in sex drive so far but it’s very early. I will give it a few months and try to report back.

    Brad

  41. One thing I wanted to mention but ran out of space before I could say it:

    START EARLY!!!!

    I could NOT start early because the treatments were just not there when I was young. My most successful drug was Propecia (just starting Avodart). When I think of how much that drug helped and how much hair loss has bothered me over the years ~ WOW!! I would have given anything to have been able to start treatment at the early signs.
    I’m NOT a doctor – LOL – I don’t even claim to be smart but from what I have read it seems that recently killed hair follicles might have a chance. Follicles that died 10 years ago – IDK – that would be something…..something I hope we get to experience in our lifetimes. So for you young guys considering taking action – GO! HAHAHA!!! I believe and it’s just my opinion that if you start treatment early at the very least you can have hair longer than those of us who had to just go to the mirror everyday and watch our looks go downhill.
    Good luck to all,

    Brad

  42. I’m still taking 0.5mg/day genuine avodart as stated above. I’m a week away from 4 months and unfortunately I still can’t see any improvement. But as I’ve detailed above I have to stress that before starting the avodart the hair in my midscalp was not growing/lengthening after having it shaved for the HT. I’m still hoping I’m in the middle of a shock loss period from stopping the minoxidil.
    There are a couple of things that really worry me though:
    1) A few times a day now I get an itchy feeling in my midscalp (sometimes referred to as MPB itch). I didn’t have this occasional itch while taking the finasteride.
    2) I don’t lose many hairs from washing/drying/combing but the ones I do see coming out look very very weak. These are exactly the hairs that avodart should be strengthening so it’s a bit disheartening.

    Does anyone here think there would be benefit in increasing my daily dose to 1mg avodart?

    Jim

    1. Also I should note that I have noticed a reduction/thinning of body hair in some areas of my body. I used to have to pluck hairs out of my unibrow 🙂 once per week but I havnt had to do it in weeks. Beard hair is slower to grow back after shaving and has thinned slightly in the thinner areas on my cheeks. I can pull hair out of my chin reasonably easily now and the hairs that come out look very fair and light coloured. Hair on the back of my hands is not growing as strong and I can say without a shadow of a doubt that hair around the pubic area has thinned and is noticeably shedding which is very strange.

    2. I had itching on scalp when started finasteride but eventually went away. Where it was itching is where the hair regrew thicker (personal experience).

      Switched to Dutasteride 0.5mg and now for 2 month, itching starting again although in area where there is thinning. Losing a lot of hair recently (thin hairs) but when I look in mirror, everything looks thicker. Eventually the hair has to go through its cycle so I am not worried about it.

      Everyone is different, maybe you having same experience as me or maybe not. Either case, your actions are stay or stop. Increasing dosage may not make much difference (see Dutasteride research on prostate for DHT reduction). Remember that DHT Blockers dont regrow hair, they just stop it from falling out. The hair regrowth is from something else in your body.

  43. I have been on Advodart for about 2 months now. What I see is I still have a few hair coming when I wash my hair. Some are thin, also today I seen a very short thick hair on the brush. I would like to assume this was a new hair that started to grow and became weak or broke off. To me that is making me think. Also I had a treat 2 month ago that was a stem cell injection in my scalp that is like the prp & a cell. But this is different. It’s actuall female placenta stem cells which is suppose to help the hair follicles. I have noticed hair growing in my front hair line. They are thick and some are a little thin. Those seem to be strong. But for some reason I continue to lose hair on my crown. I am going to see how things look at 6 month on Advodart and my stem cell treatment.

    I was taking a topical prescribed by my doctor. It was a mix of minoxidil and finesteriade and other stuff. But I stopped taking it. The minoxidil made my scalp peel and have flacky scalp. It happen a few times so I stopped taking it.

  44. I am a woman and have been taking dutasteride for about 6 months. Hair started thinning about 5 years ago. Tried scalp Injections for alopecia. Also used propecia, spironolactone, and few other things along with Rogaine. Hair loss in to the front and temple area. Dutesteride has not stopped the thinning or slow loss.

    1. Hi G, I am 67 and justed started Dutasturide .5 mg every day. 10 days in and I have noticed my breasts have enlarged , but no pain. Shedding seems to have lessened, but shower drain still shows a lot of hair when I wash. Are you still using this medication? What information can you share with me. I have been diagnosied with androgenic alopecia.

    2. Keep in mind that Dut is used to treat androgenic alopecia, if your hairloss has other causes/other type of alopecia it will not work. Make sure youre correctly diagnosed before attempting Dut.

  45. Thought I would write something since I read alot from here … Started Minoxidil 5% (generic) in Aug 2015 and had some improvement by Oct 2015 but wasnt resolving thin front part. Decided to take Finasteride 1mg and that did much better improvement by Apr 2016. Always wanted to take Dutasteride 0.5mg and spoke with my doctor after much research. Got 4 month Avodart (brand). Experienced strongest regrowth on Dutasteride 2 weeks in. Now 2 months ongoing while still on Minoxidil 5% but stopping Minoxidil today as everything is thickening except where I am putting Minoxidil . Thinking that the Minoxidil is interfering with the recovery by preventing hair cycle. Could be my imagination but this is what I see since it is where I am putting Minox. I expect transient hair loss for 2-3 months.

    Went from estimated 65% hair density (of baseline from teenage years) to 90% at the moment since Aug 2015. Hair loss been going since early 20s (now 34) but very slowly (I am male).

    Everyone is different and Dutasteride may or may not work for you. Do the research, weigh the (sexual) risks and decide to take it or not. For me it really works and lucky that I have no side effects to date from any of the above. Was really scared of possible side effects but all research says it is transient.

    Will likely know final hair recovery level by Dec 2016 on just Dutasteride.

    Last note – if you try it and reading this, write your experience here. People will appreciated it.

    1. Thought I would post an update as it has been 1.5 months since I stopped minoxidil 5%.

      Since stopping, the hair has been falling out quite often (as noted before) although before I was not seeing any thinning. Given that it is logical that if enough hair keeps falling out day and day (about 20-30 that I can see when I run my hand through my hair and then shake it), eventually it will start to show. Turns out that is about now. I have noticed that the front part of the scalp where I was putting minoxidil is thinning again.

      This was largely expected and should be transient although would of thought that it would happen much earlier (like 2-3 weeks after stopping minoxidil) but is happening now at 6 weeks. Been on Dutasteride 0.5mg daily and going on 4th month. Have to go to doctor tomorrow to get next 6 months of Dutasteride.

      Everywhere else is doing great in that it is quite thick everywhere and looking in the mirror I can see the back of the head is perfect (feels thick) and so does the top and sides. Only problem is the front part. To give some context, there is no bald spot on my head but there is a large tennis ball size area that is thinning just above the forehead going from front to back. The upside is that the hair follicle openings are all there with very thin but longish hair which tells me that things are not dead (else I would expect it to close up). The downside is that it feel crap to see myself losing hair again and there is this little part inside that wants to start using minoxidil again although rationally I got to let it pass and let the hair move through its cycle.

      My hair is much longer (circa 12-15cm long) with side path and the length covers the thinning part although when outside in the sun and wind blowing, it shows.

      Also given that I have been on Dutasteride for more than 3 months, the DHT levels should be suppressed by 90% and free-testosterone should be higher. Will likely go to the hospital in coming days to have the testosterone tested although there is no DHT test on the list so dont know if that can be done.

      Realistically, I should expect further hair loss in the area where I was putting minoxidil for at least another 2 months. Will give it another month and then report back.

      1. Minor update since previous post.

        Still losing hair a lot. Every time I run my hand through my hair, hair comes out – some thin, some thick – both long and short. Surprising part is that it is coming from everywhere so minoxidil effect could of been more widespread or could also be dutasteride “shedding effect”. While it is normal to expect shedding from stopping minoxidil (studies + people experience), I cannot tell the difference between this and dutasteride shedding (if there is one at this point).

        Also had blood taken (yesterday) to check all hormone levels (LH, Testosterone, DHT, etc). Results available in a week – will post anything of relevance.

        Also making arrangements for PRP in the coming weeks (8ml blood extraction to create circa 0.5-1ml of PRP). Basis for PRP is that I am on Dutasteride (in 4th month) so root cause of problem of thinning hair should be been addressed and PRP should help restore the hair to before. Thinking is that if PRP restores the hair (ie. thicken hair), then Dutasteride should hold it together. Unfortunately, there are no studies on PRP + Dutasteride (or Finasteride) so I cannot gauge. Either way, I would be at the limits of what pharmacology can do here for recovering hair in a sustainable way (at this time).

        For relevance, PRP continuously every year is not a sustainable situation considering the costs involved so the approach is 4x PRP (4-6 week intervals) and long term Dutasteride (0.5mg) for 30 years.

        Will keep this thread (under my previous posts) updated as things progress for my own recordkeeping as well as for admin.

        1. So it has been a little while and an update is required.

          Had blood tests taken to get hormone levels and it turns out that my total testosterone is on the lower side (10.5 mnol/L) but still within normal range. Spoke to doctor about it and he said that “hormones very good” because LH and FSH also very low meaning that my body is making good use of the testosterone that my body is producing. Unfortunately, there was no test for DHT so I cannot tell what this level is. While I dont have the ratio of T/DHT is normal males aged 30-35, it must be on the surpressed side given the time I have been on Dutasteride (ending month 4).

          It has been now almost 2.5 months since the stopping of Minoxidil (stopped 17 June 2016) and my theory of minoxidil holding back the recovery from using dutasteride seems correct (in my case at least). The tennis size area (actually a mango shape) is filling in and becoming darker (after shock loss due to minoxidil stoppage). There is still hair coming out although this is from the back end and likely still minoxidil effects (at least for another 1.5 months).

          Overall, everything is improving and was thinking of just leaving it but had PRP today (2x 10cc of blood = 4ml of PRP). This particular process was really PRP + PPP activates with calcium. The final injection looked yellow whereas some online photos of PRP have a red / pink tinge to it (ie. has some red blood cells). It was 3 small syringes all in. Procedure was pretty straight forward and took around 15min. Spin was for 2min (single spin).

          Is it going to do something? I cannot say because it is a 50/50 chance. The doctor said that he sees good results in about 1/3 of the people that request this procedure from him. I have to wait it out another 4 week to see if something positive happening. Again, I expect transient hair loss on the injection sites as the hair follicle will need to reorganize and this requires moving through its cycle again.

          My hair status is around 80% of teenage years at the moment and it is also at a point where I am looking at it less and less and less. Previously I was looking at it like every 2 hours (literally) going to toilet within the office regularly to see it in different lights. This effectively is acting as the “standard” for determining if I am gaining or losing.

          The issue is now more psychological in that previously I was at hair thickness level X and when it went thicker, I could say I am gaining. But now it has reached a point where it is not far from teenage that I am evaluation backwards (ie. how far am I from 100%?).

          What does this all mean from Dutasteride? Well, same message as before which is that it is working for me without any sexual side effect (except less semen but this is expected).

          I will keep posting from time to time for general recordkeeping and as long as I have any interesting update.

          1. It has been almost another month but more importantly it is now 3 months since I stopped minoxidil.

            Hair loss (shedding to be more precise) is still ongoing at the same pace as before however this does not seem to be minoxidil. Area of shedding is in the back by the crown / neck and is largely thin hair but still quite long (4cm-6cm). This shedding has to be from the Dutasteride (I assume).

            Still shocked and amazed at just how much comes out however there is no visual density loss when I look at the mirror. The “mango area” in the front has already filled in to more than what it was with Minoxidil when I just stopped which is the reason for the post.

            While officially it is finasteride + minoxidil that are approved for hair loss, I am finding much better results with dutasteride + PRP. Having been on both (now month 5 on dutasteride +3 weeks in from 1st PRP), I can say that there is a real difference between the two treatment approaches. The PRP likely isnt showing that much given the time that has passed but the Dutasteride is certainly having a strong effect as per my previous posts.

            Had a hair cut last friday and hair is shorter (circa 5cm at the longest) and it looks pretty good. One wouldnt think that I had hair loss given the overall thickness and coverage. As mentioned before, I still have hair everywhere just thin in some places but it is filling in.

            Still going todo another 3 sessions of PRP by the same doctor (cost is EUR 275). I know more about the procedure and protocol than the most of the doctors I was asking PRP from and some brief research on medical materials costs (Vacutainers with Calcium Gluconate, Syringes, disposables, etc) shows that EUR 275 is reasonable with materials likely not exceeding EUR 35. If the cost of materials is thousands nobody would be offering it because no-one would be able to afford it. Different protocols would have different effects but the aim is to get many platlets to the dermal papilla. Those charging very high prices likely are using a kit or system which will give more consistency but I doubt the “price-per-platlet” is worth it. For reference, the EUR 275 is “manual” in that it is spun in a generating centrifugal machine and manually extracted with a syringe with open tube (ie. no kit or system).

            Overall, there is not really much more to expect in terms of updates as I would expect to continue shedding for months and some thickening over the coming months. Will still post just to keep track of status over time. Just keep in mind that if you going through shedding, it is the only way forward.

            As a general note to everyone posting here on if their dutasteride is legit or not, I think is best you decide if this is really a good idea to buy something online (costing you money) and then you trying to figure out if you got the real medication or just a sugar pill. Just go to a doctor and get the script for the real thing and remove this variable. While I am on Avodart (the brand), I expect that the pharmacies here (the ones in buildings – not online) will replace the brand with the generic in the coming year for cost reasons. For clarity, I am paying full price (EUR 50 a month) but this is worth it as I would not trust any online pharmacy as medication is the 2nd most counterfeited item next to clothing.

            1. It has been a month since the PRP and I can say that the shedding is quite pronounced. A lot of hair is falling out since the PRP for which I estimate could be up to 400 hairs per day. Running my hands through my head for 5 min has about 40-50 hairs coming out easy and it happens day after day to the point where it is showing the thin-ness and I am concerned about running my fingers through my head.

              It is actually a stronger shock than stopping Minoxidil (could be the injection point or could be the PRP actually doing something). Not much todo at the moment but just to give it time. Next PRP is on Fri, 7 Oct. Will post towards the end of Oct again once more time has passed to see what is happening.

              Still taking Dutasteride 0.5mg daily with no sexual side effects being experienced at this point (approaching end of 5 months).

              1. Went for the 2nd PRP treatment earlier today. Having done further study, I know more about the procedure I got. In short it was 2x 4.5ml with sodium citrate (anti-coagulant) where the complete plasma (single spin 5min @ 7000g) was injected into the scalp (same as last time). I thought it was activated but it was not since I could see him preparing the syringe and nothing was added to the syringe. From what I read, it should not be an issue as the injection itself will break blood vessels which will trigger the clotting cascade and platlet activation.

                Since the last PRP, my hair has been shedding a lot although it is “darkening” more evenly over the mango area (and also general top area). In one light it looks like it is having a positive effect whereas in the other I am seeing the shedding taking place (its a lot – circa 300 hairs per day). Looks at bit raw although evenly spread out. My mind is thinking that it could be around the areas of injection.

                Having been able to figure out all the “medical consumables” used, the total cost for consumables would be < EUR 7. The rest is all labour and centrifuge investment cost. I write this to give a comparative perspective on treatment cost (EUR 250 this time) vs cost to make treatment (less than EUR 10 excl. centri + labour).

                Will get the 3rd PRP treatment towards end of November. Dutasteride is still ongoing every day at 0.5mg daily. No other change to regime.

                Will report back then or sooner if something relevant.

                1. It has been a week since my 3rd PRP session. Still on Dutasteride 0.5mg daily (brand).

                  No much different to say from the last time other than the thickness is increasing in the front area further. A bit slow but improving.

                  Hair is shedding again and this is definitely from PRP. It is very consistent in that after a week from PRP injection, I start to shed hair everywhere. It is the kind of hair that has been growing for long time (6cm+) but is thin. The shedding will continue until about 5 weeks after injection.

                  The PRP is really making a difference (multiple comments by various people – hair dresser, doctor, people over drinks, etc) and the PRP I have is nothing special. It is not even “real PRP” as it is the complete plasma part (ie. PRP + PPP) that the Doc injects into the scalp using a 27G needle. This is very counter what I read about “good vs bad” PRP and can only explain the difference due to individual genetics (or bullsh*t research). This round of PRP preparation was done with BD Vacutainer SST II tubes (single complete wrist rotation – not the 8 recommended for platlet activation) with 5min centrifuge spin (dont know how many Gs). The Doc must of gotten a good deal on the tubes but since they cost EUR25 per 100, it may of been what was available / on special. Total whole blood volume was around 8ml. Also to note that I did not use any anaesthetic as it is shown to interfere with platlet function (it doesnt hurt that much anyways).

                  I have one more PRP session in January before I leave it for 6 months to see where things are. Dont expect much of a further update here outside of what I have written before. Minoxidil is not worth it (personal view) as it doesnt solve the problem and then eventually itself becomes a problem of its own. The dutasteride is working well. It will likely take another year before I see “full effect” which by this I mean sustained low DHT levels and how my hair recovers along with PRP.

                  If you read this far of my progress posts, it would be worth while to take note of what treatments I started / stopped when and also the experience as it progressed if it is of any interest to you. Rest is all down to how your body responds but my experience has been well documented here.

  46. I started taking propecia 1mg a day at the age of 22 after realising my hairline was receeding and my hair in general was thinning. I am now 27 and although I have noticed my hairline has further receded slightly over the past 5 years the general thickness and appearance of my hair has improved. I’m sure that if I had not been taking it in would be experiencing far worse hair loss than at present. I am however concerned that over the next few years the propecia may begin to lose effectiveness due to the long term use, as I have read others stating that after six years some users begin to notice an increase in hair loss once again. I am therefore looking into switching to dutasteride but I am concerned about buying it online as I am based in the UK and can’t get it prescribed.

  47. Well , I started my hairloss at like 17 years old when my ever so thoughtful and tactful barber told me “yeah it looks like you will be going bald”. That comment started me on a long and very rocky road known as my personal relationship with hair loss. After going home and crying my eyes out for like what seemed like days I tried unsuccessfully to come to terms with it all and I can truthfully say that even now that I am 61 years old I still really havent come to terms with it and truthfully I never will. How anyone ever does is really beyond me. There probably hasn’t been a day in my life that I haven’t thought about it, obsessed about it, considered it or whatever-hell I even dream (or should I say nightmare) about losing all my hair. Whats crazy is that it has progressed very gradually with mostly just noticeable thinning of the crown of my head and stayed that way through my 20’s and 30’s but of course I still agonized over it the whole time. In my 40’s when propecia came along I jumped right on that hoping it would regrow some of what I lost but I never really saw that happen. I also added minoxidil and a laser cap to the mix hoping that it would also fortify the effects and perhaps grow some extra hair. Again I never noticed much regrowth but all in all it seemed to help keep most of the hair I had- although I also noticed that more scalp was getting visable on the sides and back of my head as the years went by. About the time I hit 54 I began to notice a strange and sudden waning of my libido which I am pretty sure is due to the cumulative effects of finasteride and this has worsened significantly since then with only occasional episodic brief returns. When I say low libido I mean that on a scale of 1-10 I was about a -3. In fact the whole sex thing seemed rather revolting to me. Along with that there was never any morning erections for years and the only way I could have sex was with levitra. Once I got going everything seemed to come back ok for that the act to be successful but between times I felt just totally asexual in every way. A beautiful naked woman could ride up on a bicycle and I would probably be thinking about what kind of cool bike it was or some such. I tried some testosterone sporadically mainly to try and restore some libido for my girlfriends and it did seem to work when I did it but of course I was very paranoid it would increase the hair loss because of generating more DHT even though I was on propecia to block it. I did the necessary bloodwork and always had relatively low levels of DHT so I assumed the propecia was working. What is really weird is that now after all these years of relative stability my hairloss has really been taking off. The old tried and true Finasteride/Propecia double threat just has just now seemed to stop working altogether. Destiny fulfilling itself I guess… *sigh*. I think hair follicles are like little time clocks and they are genetically programmed to die off perhaps by becoming sensitized to DHT in maybe even tiny amounts or just plain succumbing to pre-programmed cell death -who the hell knows. Now its like all the crazy obsessive hair thoughts and top of mind awareness around my hair loss has completely taken over my life. I can tug my fingers through any part of my hair be it back, front, sides, top, even the nape of my neck (WTF? I thought that hair was there for life !?) and get 5-6 hairs about every damn time. I both dread and hate taking showers because now the hair in the combs and brushes seems immense, I feel hair washing into my mouth when I shower – I see it on the towel, the pillow etc etc. And I used to love showers. I find myself staring at my hirsute friends heads whenever I’m around them and being secretly so very pissed off and jealous of their hairy ass scalps- I have some friends who you can’t even see a fricking part in their hair. Drives me completely crazy- and you’d think that being 61 years old (albeit a very young 61 who is into bodybuilding , latin dancing, snowboarding etc) I would be used to all this after all these years of living with it but you know what ? it just doesn’t seem to work that way. I look pretty young for my age and gawd if I just had a normal head of hair I could pass for like 40… Its like the horror never dies. Its the last thing I think about at night and the first thing I think about in the morning when I wake up..So now I have elected to add Dutasteride to the equation at .5 mg /day in one last ditch effort to save what (little) hair I have left. I have been on it for only a week with no effect noted as yet and used this forum for some advice about using it. Speaking of the (little) hair thing- I once went to Bosley thinking I could do the transplant thing only to be told that I don’t have enough density to do it. But the doc did say “wow its amazing how much hair you look like you have despite not having much” Well thank you, I think ? So now I figure that if it is finasteride that has destroyed my sex drive then the Dutasteride will likely shut it off completely once and for all. The research says that this side effect is only noted in about 2-4% of patients but I suspect it is much higher than that. Hell I might just as well go ahead and get castrated as we all know that will save your hair. But instead I elect to do it chemically like some sex offender would be court ordered to have done. But you know what ? When I envision how goofy and horrifying I would look with nothing but that little hippocratic horse shoe of hair around the bottom of my head I don’t even hesitate. Its like I pick hair over sex because with my physiology it appears that I can’t seem to have both. Weird huh? If I could shave my head and do the goatee thing I would do that in a New York minute but sadly I bear little if any resemblance to Bruce Willis, Jason Statham, Stone Cold Steve Austin or the other countless studs with granite jaws and well shaped heads so I guess this is the only path for me. I just want to say to all of you that I certainly feel your pain and if you are young don’t hesitate to throw everything you can at this problem before it becomes the cursed infirmity/affliction that I certainly feel it is. Keeping fighting the fight, keep what hair you do have and pray like I do that the same minds who can land a man on the moon and put glow-in-the-dark fish genes in kittens can somehow find us a real solution to this horrible deformity before our lifetime here is done….

    1. Mark, thanks for the detailed comment and please keep us updated. I am sure I would hate hair loss even in my 60s.

  48. Hello! Iam female 33 years old. I suffered from hair loss about already 4 years. Finally 5 months ago i started spironolactone and I had a lots of regrow. Then I wanted to try avodart since the back of my head was still thin. The first month of avodart I had the worse shedding ever. Iam in 2,5 month and my hair is more oily and still falling out. With spironolactone my experience was different. I had a little dred shedding but nothing major like with avodart. Plus spironolactone decrease my hair and face oiliness. But avodart brought back oily skin and hair.why?? Should I still wait a bit more or just stop avodart? Thank you Barbora

    1. Barbara, people will react in different ways, and women will also have different reactions compared to men just due to their different hormonal makeup. Best to consult a local dermatologist who specializes in hair loss (and prescribes Avodart…many don’t). Since you are in Europe, it might even be worth driving down to Germany or elsewhere if the best hair loss doctors happen to be in another country. Here is a list that might help:

      http://www.hairlosscure2020.com/hair-loss-research-around-the-world/

  49. I read an interesting comment from the owner of the hairlossfight forum on here: http://www.hairlossfight.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1096

    “Interesting anecdote, a relative of mine in his 70’s is on dutasteride for his prostate. He wasn’t taking it for hair loss, but he was basically 90% bald in the crown and vertex, but over the past 6 months he has grown a lot of hair! His vertex is filling up and he has tons of vellous hairs that look like they are going terminal. So there you go.”

  50. Hey admin, hey everyone

    I am on avodart now for 6 years.
    At the beginning I think that I experimented regrowth. Today it is difficult to say, my hair loss is stabilized . I never had hard side effects. Maybe a small low in sexual activity and maybe a small gynecomastia. That’s all. I think in my case this is a small price to pay because I am sure that If I wasnt on Avodart, I would be blad today. It is truly more effective thant finasteride !!
    Don’t hesitate to ask me information if you want

  51. No admin, I have no reduction in my hair body. Not on my chest or on my legs. I have to add that somtimes I do a cure for 6 months of 2,5 mg minoxidil oral pills ( topical like foam gives me dandruffs and irritations ).
    I do have a theory about mpb. Like everybody knows it is linked to our sexual activity. Have you ever experimented like a thrill on the top of your head during an orgasm ? Take the test !! After one or several orgams you will see that your scalp will start to scratch and your hair will get oily ( that ‘s the reason why ketoconazole works for AGA )
    It is related to an immune system reaction under the skin what it means PGD2 and DHT production. Many of your readers ask about the possibility to Wake up hair when they gone from many years. I have to admitt I was septic about that. But when you look the works of Dr christiano , the Jak inhibitors woke hair in AA gone for many years. When you look on the patient’s scalp, nothing let us beleive it could work this way. If it does work on AA why not for us too ?

  52. Hello,
    so keeping up telling you about my dutasteride experiment started february. one pill every 48h .
    after better results than finasteride, i started the shedding I usually have in the summer, I upped the doses to one pill a day,
    thats when the real shedding started, but new hair seem to grow right after again and healthier. I think my hair looks darker too.
    I have stopped minoxidil completely since January too, as I wanted to see the results of Dutasteride by itself ( maybe shed a little because of minox stop but dutasteride is keeping my hair there ) will probably start minoxidil again in a few months mixed with dutasteride in a topical way. plus keeping oral dutasteride.

    First I want to clear out if dutasteride is helping, now upped since 1 month to 1 pill every day. seem to work better ,,, hope its not just my imagination.. probably serum level got high very slowly with one pill every 48h and Im seeing the effects only now after 5 months, after i upped dosis since 1 month.
    As we know it takes time to get the right serum concentration.
    I will keep on like this for the next 5 months and Ill let you know.
    Sides;
    thinner body (chest) hair. looks blondish. thinner beard hair, got some white beard hair suddenly since on dutasteride but maybe im just turning 35…less oily face skin. less dandruff. dandruff almost completely stopped, no itching, wich is great for me.It drove me nuts.
    sex is still good, lower semen level,
    I feel sometimes a weird feeling under my skin after taking the pill… und my hair skin and body skin..like lots of ants walking.
    I think it could be something about the receptors blocked
    I strongly believe in a relation between baldness and hair body, I believe the follicles are sensitive and it induces the growth on a certain kind of epithelial structure and miniaturization in for example head skin.

  53. I m taking galcare dutamax .5mg for last 11 months but there is no overall effect, my hair is still falling . I m 19 yrs old my hair is very thin and the density of my hair is decreasing very rapidly . Is it necessary to use dutamax minoxidil together to have better result? what is the success rate of dutasteride for hair loss……? Plz help , my self confidence is shattered by my hair loss… Plz plz reply if u have any tips for me…

    1. Ashish- Your best shot is probably the dutasteride .5 per day – minoxidil at least every night and once more per day if you can swing it. Use Nizoral shampoo 2x per week and T-gel shampoo on the off days. Those 3 things have the best shot at success for you as they are all well proven to help if you are lucky enought to get a good response. At your age you are jeopardizing your sex life with the dutasteride as you will probably be on it for about forever if it seems to work. Given enought time it seems to chemically castrate a high number of young men. Probabably 20-25% though the manufacturor denies that. Best of luck as I know at your age this problem is beyond devastating…..

    2. Stop taking Duta and go to the doctor to have your thyroid levels checked. Also forget about minoxidil and everything else, nothing will help until you have your thyroid level stabilised which alone is enough to make your hair grow back, it could take many years before you need dutasteride.

  54. Hi all, I’m new to all this but thought I’d give Avodart ago sooner rather than later as I’m starting to thin a fair bit in the crown area and one front corner. My question is where can I get Genuine Avodart from without a prescription?? And how much should I be paying so I know I’m not getting ripped off? Any info is appreciated.

  55. Hi all, firstly I’m 22 y/o, started receding at about 19 y/o. have lots of hair everywhere else, full scalp is thick. my hair is fine apart from hairline. It’s not horrible and looks normal if styled to suit. But it’s depressing. Ive just started taking dutasteride(dutagen) .5mg every day solely for hairline regrowth (touch wood hope it helps )If If I can remember I will try and update every few weeks or so. My plan is to try that for at least 6 months to 1 year for a real assessment . Haven’t noticed anything yet. Only been a few weeks. I’m from the UK and I get it from unitedpharmacies-uk.md. 6 months worth of dutagen at .5mg everyday for around £90 posted. Would highly recommend this pharmacy. Been buying various drugs off them for years and cannot fault. no I’m not advertising them lol.

  56. Also I have tried minox. I would say it’s not worth it. few months just to regrow tiny frontal hairs and when you stop minox they almost immediately vanish. also have tried finasteride and Nizoral shampoo. But haven’t stuck to them long enough to judge. I will most likely be using Nizoral shampoo again after a few months of dutasteride.

  57. Hi Admin, do u personally try dutasteride and did it help u? Seems that some ppl experience shedding before regrowth. Are there any people who do not experience regrowth after shedding from dutasteride. I am thinking of trying dutasteride after reading through all the testimonials. Thanks a lot for your opinion.

  58. Hi All,

    I want to start dutasteride, do you suggest Brand Avodart (or) generic Dutasteride. I am In US and I will Buy from Local Pharmacy.

    Thanks.

  59. Hello,

    I am really desperate. Can a girl take DUT ? Are they any risks for girls ? where can I get it (i am from Paris).

    Thank you all

    1. Yes., a woman can take Dutasteride ; however, it does cause birth defects, so make sure you don’t get pregnant. I have been on it for 5 mths.

  60. Hi,
    I am suffering from hair loss for last 10 years. My crown is almost clear and remaining hair are too thin. Recently I came to know about Avodart .5mg. I am thinking to give it a try but I could not find any reliable online store where I can order it without prescription. Can anyone suggest me from where I can get it? I don’t want to see doctors now. I am from Washington State, US.

  61. Hi, admin

    I have started losing my hair and my temples have receded. I am on Nizoral 1% and Alpecin Shampoo. I am confused whether I should go on Fin or Dut. Also I am afraid of the sides. Can you please suggest me something ?

    1. Sorry I try not to recommend any drugs to people. Please talk to a dermatologist, and then decide based on your tolerance for risk and potential side effects.

  62. Nearly two years back i was on 0.5 mg of Avodart daily and after 8 – 9 months I had to chuck the towel in. I seemed to go through a constant shed and overall made my hairless worse. I jumped back on propecia and that thickened hair up slightly. Only problem now is that propecia has completely stopped working. I’m now considering to give dutasteride another shot but at a lower does, say 1 pill a week. Has anyone had better results on a lower dose?
    I also noticed when on dutasteride that my semen got thicker. From doing some research, it seems that people who experience watery semen have better success. Need to do something badly but running out of options.

    1. hi Bernle, Can you please tell me how come you get these medicines so easily ? Do you consult any Dr. for that ? Or you get them without prescription?
      I am from US. I am also looking for Avodart but i dont want to consult dr. any more. Can you tell me the options i have ?
      Thanks

      1. Hi. I did consult a doctor. It took some convincing but got there in the end…not that it helped me. I’m from the UK and did order the brand name Avodart from pharmacydirectgb. They ship and also do online consultations for extra money. It’s £20 for 30 capsules. Hope this helps.

    2. Hi, old post but deserves a reply. Dutasteride does not work at low doses since its cleared out of the body so fast in single doses, it has very short half-life if you take once a week. However if you take dayly the “express route” saturates and it will be cleared out mostly via the “linear” route, halflife then increases to 3-5 weeks.

      Posts i read about shedders on dut, they seem to have more success when increasing the dose. Some who used 0.5 a day has reported shedding when dropping to 0.5 every 2 days. You may need to increase, not reduce. Dut is dose dependent, unlike fin.

  63. A little talked about but interesting fact regarding dustasteride that may be useful to some of you is that it has nonlinear elimination characteristics. What this means is that when it’s reached steady-state at the recommended dose of one Avodart/day , the half-life can be up to about 5 weeks long. On the other hand, when it’s reached steady-state at a dose of only 0.1 mg/day, the half-life is only around two or three days. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2014202/. This is why some doctors suggest it may be more potent at two .5 mg capsules twice a week than one capsule per day.

  64. I have read all the comments and found this blog to be very informative and real. So I thought I should share as well. I am 45 and have been dealing with this since I was 17. I remember the fear back then of the thought of losing all my hair at a young age. The changes were happening so fast I thought it was going to be completely bald quickly. It can be a very difficult time for a young man. But don’t let it ruin you. After all stress/ worry can not add a single day to your life and is scientifically proven to lower your life span. I say that because stress is not the friend of hair loss. So start realizing things could be worse – a lot worse. And that you don’t want to add to the problem by constantly worrying. A good woman loves a man’s confidence more then his hairline. I also prayed to God that he would let me have my hair until I was 30 and found a wife. He graciously provided both. Knowing God is the meaning of life. I strongly recommend learning the Word of God and bringing all life’s problems to our Creator in the name of Jesus. Trust in Him to lead your way. As for my medical solutions I met up with a Dr Orentrich in NYC in the early 90’s and he heard early results from Avodart’s positive effect towards stopping hair loss. So I started taking it diligently over 20 years ago. It has helped. I have seen slow recession but strongly believe this has helped prevent loss. My sex drive has been fine. However one year ago I switched to the generic that came out to save $140 a month. My hair actually looks good and healthy but I have lost my side burns and beard on my cheeks. It looks like I have a groomed gotte. I have also seen a a loss in my eyebrows as well. So I’m thinking of going back to the Avodart brand. I was wondering if anyone else switched from Avodart to the generic and what their results have been. I also wanted to say that Michael Jordan was worried about losing his hair and then he shaved it off and started a movement that has freed many men of the stress of thinking about it. Try it. Or realize a good haircut makes a lot of difference. Pay for a good stylist not Super Cuts or a barber. There are popular styles today that can really make a difference. Stay calm. The meaning of life is not about our hair line. I know it can bother us all and if your younger it might be hard to know that now. God Bless. PS Please let me know if you have switched from Avodart to generic and what the results have been.

    1. I havent switched but on avodart i too am noticing reduced beard growth on the cheeks and the side burns.
      Im not gonna switch, currently paying around us$1 per avodart 0.5, if ever i need to try a higher daily dose i will look into generic dutasteride.

  65. I am a 20 year old male and have experienced hair loss for the past 3.5 years. I began with 1 mg, then 2.5 mg Propecia daily from ages 17 to 19. My hair thickened substantially and my hairline stabilized. Then, around 19, my hair began to shed and thin again, although not as aggressively as it had at 17. I switched to 0.5mg Avodart daily and have experienced slower yet consistent recession. Without Propecia and Avodart, I imagine I would be bald by now, and I am thankful that these two products have worked for as long as they have.

  66. Hello guys.

    Two questions if you dont mind:

    -Is there any online and european based lab where i can send meds so they can test to see if it’s legit?

    -I guess it’s fine to take avodart with an empty stomach?

    Thank you.

    1. Hello, you can phone GSK themselves, take the batch number from the box and they will tell you if it is a legitimate batch number.

  67. I was on Propecia for 6 or 7 years, I was OK with it and my hairloss was under control but during last three months I felt it’s back and I was lossing too much hair, so I visited my doctor, she told me that my body is resisting against Propecia and suggested Avodart.
    I’m taking the drug for last two weeks but the result is visible right now! My hair gone a bit thicker than three weeks ago but there is no sign of huge regrowth yet and it seems normal as it was before.

    And there is also one problem, normally I’m a super horny beast but since I started to use the drug all the libido is gone and there is a huge sperm count reduction.

    My doctor told me to take the drug for three months, I’ll share the side effect with her and if there wasn’t any solution for libido and sperm reduction, I will quit the drug and use something else, but if the libido is not a concern for you, the drug seems a valid solution.

  68. Hi I’m 39 year old Asian American that has been using Avodart/Dutastateride since 2008 and Propecia prior, from 2006.
    In 2008 my hair was down to my shoulders, growing it from 2005. Propecia helped a little. I was told about Avodart and seen positive results from my reference who swore by it. I did see quite a difference with thickness and texture. I was able to grow my hair longer, to my mid back.
    I started using water based shampoos with a conditioning hair mud mask treatment and a therapeutic shampoo brush, massaging my scalp with it. My diet consisted of high proteins, seaweed and kelp. I found simple scalp massages to be effective as well!
    So, it’s 2016. My hair is short and I am pretty satisfied with how my hairline and top crown; frontal and back of my head looks still. I am continuing my use of Dutasteride .5MG that I have been ordering in bulk, alternating from daily doses to every other day after a three months basis, in the chance that it may boost its effects from time to time.
    I am 39 yo who really could have been bald due to the fact that it is unfortunately hereditary in my genes. I am grateful for Dutasteride and to my colleague back then for referring it to me. And now I am about to start my next aesthetic phase in growing my hair out to chin length. I would be happy to try and answer any of your inquiries regarding my experiences with Dutasteride.
    Thank you for reading.
    -Me

  69. Yep, I took Dutasteride (Avodart) to regrow hair. I took it for one year. At about 9 months in, I experienced moderate amount of shedding, but I persevered anyway, remembering what I’d read about hair cells waking up and that some shedding could be expected. My patience paid off and my hair came in noticeably thicker and denser. I was ecstatic. I took the moderate dose (can’t recall the exact amount, but the dose in the middle).

    I stopped taking it though. The side effects were too much – lack of libido, weight gain, softness, basically I felt like I was turning into a woman. My doctor even told me my body was soft and womanly. And then, there was the cancer scare…yes, cancer is a possible side effect of Avodart, and not just any cancer, but an awful, aggressive, barely treatable form of prostate cancer. Too scarey for me.

    I’ve stopped the Dutasteride (Avodart) now for almost a year and I think my hair may be thinner, but my hair dresser disagrees. I think she’s just trying to make me feel better. I seem to shed more than when I taking the Avodart.

    Today I use only natural substances topically like Rosemary, Castor Oil, coconut oil, saw palmetto oil, and eat more vegetables and herbal supplements that are known to have anti-inflammatory effects, like resveratrol, black currant oil, modafinil, pumpkin seed oil, etc, etc. Hopefully that will keep the worst of the thinning at bay while a safer alternative is developed.

    1. Hi Kevin thanks for your detailed update.

      As far as prostate cancer goes, my understanding with the past Finasteride studies was that if you get prostate cancer when on Finasteride, it is harder to detect when the cancer is in the early stages because the Finasteride is interfering with the PSA and other related readings. Then you have a higher chance of only detecting the cancer when it is in the latter stages. However, Finasteride directly does not increase the risk of prostate cancer. I could be wrong, but if Finasteride really increased the actual risk of getting prostate cancer significantly, I would think that they would have banned the drug by now?

      I would assume the same kind of phenomenon with Dutasteride?

      FYI — the below linked study concludes a lowered risk of prostate cancer when on Finasteride:

      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/25955319

    2. The side effects you had dounds bad do its good you stopped avodart. The rest of your post is a shameless and provocative insult to everyone with MPB, insinuating that we could have had hair had we been more health aware and eat better. Utter and complete hokum, antiinflamatory crap with no proven antiinflamatory effect, but it sure proves that avodart made you into a woman. Oils and seeds? Man, you really know how to woman.

  70. Hey guys,

    37-year-old male, NW2, white.

    I’ve been on Propecia for almost 10 months now.

    Didn’t notice really anything until about month five, then the hair shed stopped. Best results were about six months from commencing treatment. Thicker hair, temples started filling in. Haven’t noticed as much growth in my crown area, so I started taking Rogaine simultaneously.

    I’ve noticing recently some shed again, but I think it’s too early to assume my body’s resisting the drug. I’ve noticed no other side effects beside higher free testosterone (based on blood work), so I’ll continue taking it until it stops working. Hopefully the Propecia will save most of my hair until next-generation treatments hit the market.

  71. Where do I start , well in a nutshell started losing hair at 17( my dad has not one hair on his head even on the sides) went for a procedure at 19 called Nido , what a disaster , they put artifical hairs in scalp , then these hairs get infected and fall out , damaged the front of my scalp permantly.Needed a solution and flew to the U.S. For a flap surgery to replace the damaged area with my own hair taken from the back , gave thickness but a bit harsh on the hairline this is when I was 25 , so had mini transplants to the front to give more natural look. The hair at the back and middle was thinning , tried proscar, worked for a while maybe 5 years then started going south again, now I’m 45 and been using dud 0.5 for 2 years and must say has kept the hair towards the back still thin a bit but use toppik to cover some thinning , while things have turned out not ideal, I would have rather shaved my head if I could have seen the future , I don’t look to bad , mostly people don’t notice the extensive work I’ve had only a few that are really looking close . But dut does work , but I was using it .5 every 3 days , then up the dose to everyday , started getting chest pains , not to bad but noticeable . Dropped back to .5 every 3 days.

  72. Well… It’s a little more complicated for me. I’m undergoing treatment for prostate cancer and am on Lupron and Avodart.

    My hair is growing back in places that hasn’t seen hair in 20 years.

    I have no idea if it is just the Avodart or the combination with Lupron.

    Just to let you know – Lupron is the devil’s drug. The side effects are horrible.

    1. “My hair is growing back in places that hasn’t seen hair in 20 years.”
      Is it growing back as real hairs or miniaturized hairs?

    2. Scott, just fyi. Lupron is an GnHR agonist, it causes the Hypothalumus to crank up production of gonadotropin releasing hormone to a point where the pituitary can’t cope with it (GnHR resistance), and it ignores it. And shuts off FSH/LH production. Problem is there are GnHR receptors elsewhere in the body. So that huge flux may be the cause of your other symptoms. There is a new oral GnHR antagonist, which shuts down GnHR production rather than hyperstimulation by the name of Elagolix by company Neurocrine. New Drug App early 2017. Clinical studies on Endometriosis and fibroids for women. But there will be wider applications.

  73. Ive been on avodart for 1 year and 2 months now and ive continued to lose hair, thin out, and my hairline has receded more along with itching and sore skin. I used finasteride for 2 years before this so i dont know what the reason is for me not responding and continuing to lose hair. I am going to attempt oral minoxidil as a last resort, but i used it topically with little results a while back.

    Moral of this story, dutasteride and finasteride are NOT fixes. I caught my loss MEGA early and my hair is anout 60% thinner now with hairline recession. Look into other options before wasting money, time and yourself to hairloss

    1. Thats very unfortunate but not typical. You are a very bad responder to both Finasteride and Dutasteride but Duta is still the best for most others.

      I suspect you do not have male pattern baldness, its important to be diagnosed correctly before starting, in your case its extremely likely that you been taking medications you shouldnt have touched, this happens too often with finasteride users who rush into things at an early stage not really knowing why they lose hair.

      Dutasteride is great, but ONLY if the hairloss is caused by inherited DHT sensitivity in hair follicles, aka MPB or male pattern baldness. Everyone else, DO NOT USE!

  74. 3 weeks on avodart, tiny miniaturized hairs coming out all over the head including forehead that has been bald for 25 years now, and even below what was my hairline when i was 17. If any of these hairs will grow into something useful is still an open question but things are certainly happening at a fast rate here.
    No sides other than positive things, experiencing symptoms of increased testosterone levels which is exclusively a good thing. Its also easier to ejaculate many times in a row and on the third and fourth intercourse erections are now fuller. Its great, even if i dont get the hair to grow Avodart is well worth taking.

      1. No not more horny but increased sexual ability. Finasteride had a similar initial short term effect on me, with Dutasteride its more persistent, more than 3 weeks and its still there. Before i would often encounter weaker erection, like the head wouldnt reach its full size, the 3rd or 4th round of sex, which of course made it harder to reach the goal of ejeaculating, and thats not an issue since starting on avodart.

        Only the first days after starting Avodart did i experience some excessive horniness, thats back to normal now but the sexual capacity remains elevated.

        Its not uncommon to have positive sexual side effects on Duta, it increases free testosterone by an average of 15%, and even more in men who are borderline deficient. 15% increase would put me back to the T level i was when i was around 25 years old and that is undeniable a good thing =)

        1. Update: around 6 weeks on avodart now, some seemingly useable hairs have emerged on the top of the head but too few to make a difference at all, for now. The good sideeffects continue, with good erections also after repeated ejaculations. Had areas of dry skin with dandruff a while but it got better without any treatment, no itch. Beard growth has slowed on the sides of the face, normal growth on front.
          Bottom line on avodart for me: still love it.

        1. I had quite normal T, has well above average bone density, and even before starting dut i had a sexual capacity that made me wonder when other guys brag they did it 3 times, i thought everyone could do 10 times a day, or 6 times during a few morning hours, turned out it was me who was the special case. So Not high T but definitely not low, been tested many times over the decades, im not in the lower acceptable area and not in the high.

          My theory is that the lower dht has made my body try to compensate by producing more T so more could be converted to DHT, remotely compareable to what happens when you try to block estrogen conversion in premenopause women: the body compensates by overproducing, and they end up with far more E than they originally had.

        2. And maddy as i alresdy said to fadi: its not uncommon to have positive sexual side effects when on 5ar inhibitors, on finasteride its so common that its almost the norm but on fin the good effect taper off after some days. Dut is far better in that way, the effect stays.

          very common and the effect is stronger than you would expect. Just another proof that dht isnt needed for sexual ability, the lower the dht the better. those who lose sexual ability could be experiencing testosterone decline or estrogen increase or a combo thereof.

    1. More than 6 weeks since i started avodart and now several of the soft microhairs has grown, even individual hairs are thick enough to be (barely) felt with the finger now, on top and in a thin line extending forward halway to the fore head. Its like a miracle, its really growing back from nothing after all these years, and in the process giving me only positive side effects. Did i mention my age… 45 and started heavy hairloss at 17.

        1. Admin, did you do any research on the possibility that excess estrogens caused by aromstase coversion of testosterone could be the reason for many of the side effects on fin and especially on dut? Maybe one should ask how are the people on dut+aromatase inhibitors doing?

          The current prevailing line of thought that 5ar inhibitor sideeffects come from low DHT is not well thought through, then we would all get sides, its naive to think its that simple.

          My theory is that we dont need dht as adults, i base that partly on the facts that dht has no effect on muscle growth and little effect on sexual capacity, both those are done by testosterone. DHT make us feel sexual lust but its testosterone that enables us to actually have sex.

          Maybe lots of fin-dut sides can be remedied by aromatase inhibitors, lower the conversion of T to E.

          1. Study on testosterone increase when taking anastrozole, group 1: 1 mg daily (n = 12); group 2: 1 mg twice weekly.

            “Mean ± sd bioavailable testosterone increased from 99 ± 31 to 207 ± 65 ng/dl in group 1 and from 115 ± 37 to 178 ± 55 ng/dl in group 2”
            See more at: http://press.endocrine.org/doi/full/10.1210/jc.2003-031467

            Theres also numbers for decrease in estrogens. My idea is that the increase in testosterone will help a little, and that the very significant increase in the T:E ratio will help even more. We already know E increase when taking dutasteride and can lead to gynecomastia, anastrozole is proven effective for this by a large number of bodybuilders on steroids, many of them also taking dutasteride to counter the increase in DHT caused by the steroids.

            Im definitely getting some anastrozole on monday, plan to start with 0.25mg every other day and double it after two weeks.

            1. Bought Letrozole instead of anastrozole, more effective and can dose lower so it will be cheaper too. Took around 1/8 of a 2.5mg tablet, thats already enough for two days.

              How it works: inhibits conversion of testosterone to estradiol, which on dut/fin increases slightly and is the reason why some get mild gynecomastia from dut/fin, also known as puffy nipples. Who knows, estradiol reduction can also remove some other side effects for some hairlossers on 5ari medication. Ps, this is my personal experimentation, i do not encourage others to try, sharing my experiences with medicines is ment as information and not inspiration. However if anyone has combined these or similar meds i love to hear your experiences.

              1. Strongly advice to not touch letrozole, even microdoses, unless you are on a high dose anabolic cycle and have a serious problem with aromatizing, and even then its probably a very bad idea. Me, who didnt have any excess estrogen got quite sick from both the letrozole itself and the low estrogen level that followed. Really terrible medicine.

                1. If anyone who need this info should come across this comment i elaborate on what happened. Today is monday again a week after i took letrozole while on dutasteride. The first night was weird with incredible vivid lifelike dreams, and that was scary enough, i have never thought it possible, these dreams are so real they can follow you into the day! Beware.
                  Now i was in ok shape this day after, but the second night the insomnia hit hard and continued for days, if i fell asleep it was so short and unresting, plus the dreams, got up early, its third day on letrozole. And now the hypoestrogenic symptoms hit, hard, and got worse the next days. Felt so miserable and had bad headaches due to liw estrogen levels but whenever i forced myself to exercise i had very good stamina and good strength, i really think testosterone increased a little. However on day 5 and 6 i was too sick to exercise, day 7 the sideeffects got better and sleep had been very good, but was still nervous and could not enjoy exercise, and still lowered appetite that had been there since day 3. Now, Day 8 and evening, finally feeling well, had a big dinner and no discomfort afterwards, 2 exercise sessions today but one was only light cardio, the last thing i want now is too much ketones in the blood, so have to be careful still. If you read advices online to take letrozole for elevating your testosterone: Dont. Yes it elevates T but the sides will stop you from enjoying it. And especially dont mix with dutasteride, learn from my mistake and dont go near letrozole.

        1. 0.5 mg, thats 500 micrograms. 1 capsule every. Thats the Avodart brand, not any generic type.
          However, i want to remind that im still bald, need a lot more regrowth before i can say i got any hair on top, but im impressed that anything at all could grow back.

    2. 8 weeks and nothing new, disappointing after such a great and promising start, the regrown hairs are no more than they were 10 days ago. One thing however happened, ejaculations gotten longer and with good intensity and looking like sperm volume is higher. I had a fairly low volume as a side effect from taking finasteride some years ago, this continued after discontinuation but by my best estimates it seem to have increased by a decent amount after starting avodart.
      Possibly related thing: wife brought home a digital blood pressure meter, my readings are below the usual, very near the 120/80 guideline. According to several online sources this can happen with increased testosterone levels, if so i have to give the credits to avodart.

      To sum up: progress has been great and includes regrowth, but slowing down now after week 7, side effects are of the good kinds.

      1. So its 10 weeks on Avodart already i think, the regrown hairs up front are starting to turn into a mat thats visible from 3-4 feet distance now, this would look good of i had dark hair but since i am blonde they still arent too obvious. Given that i had absolutely nothing there, not even vellus hairs, only 10 weeks ago i now dare to be optimistic that this will eventually become something useful. Simply amazing, almost unreal.

  75. I’m 34 yeas old, I only realized the potential benefit of Dutasteride/Avodart only after stopping it.

    I started shedding hair 4-5 years back but never was a concern for me as I had a full head of thick hair. With time, shedding increased and 1.5 years back I decided to start Minoxidil and Propecia. After 1 year, I didn’t see any improvements in terms of reduced hair loss but I’ve seen some periods of sudden and increased hair loss(like 100+/day) which made me panic and switch to Dutasteride/Avodart. After a month or so, a dermatologist advised me to stop Avodart due to its risk of sides even though I didn’t notice anything wrong so I stopped it and got back on Propecia. Like 1 month after stopping Avodart, shedding completely stopped and I was so happy to think that my hair loss was cured. However I was wrong, 1 month later I had a sudden and increased loss again with lot of thin hair mainly from the top of my head and little on the sides. Another panic period, I even had doubt that I have MPB because there’s no pattern loss, hairline is fine, I lose the hair mainly from the top, something like diffuse thinning. It could be even that I have Telogen Effluvium but the fact that I lose lot of thin hair makes me think that this is due to DHT, I might even have both. Anyway now I’m still on the same regimen(Propecia+Minoxidil) but I’ll give myself another 2 weeks, if the shedding continues, I’ll switch back to Avodart. What I’m presuming is that when my hair loss stopped, it was a period around 1 month after taking Avodart, so it might be the time when its effect has started and then when I stopped it and went back to Propecia the hair loss resumed. I’ll have to do another experiment with my hair loss story, I hope I’ll be able to identify what has really helped stopping my hair loss in that period.

  76. I use it internally & externally after 10 years on generic Propecia ran it’s course and stopped working. I was losing it fast until I found Abodart…which worked for about a year. Now I mix 10 caps per bottle of Minoxidil, and apply once daily at night ..along with 5 caps – once every five days, and have had positive results (retention & growth).

    However ..beware the bitch-tits!
    Interesting trade off, eh?

    1. The oral dose, youre doing it wrong, very wrong. Taken in large single doses Duta has very short half life, you really need to take one capsule a day.

      “At low serum concentrations (less than 3ng/mL), dutasteride is cleared rapidly by both the concentration dependent and concentration independent elimination pathways. Single doses of 5 mg or less showed evidence of rapid clearance and a short half-life of 3 to 9 days.

      At therapeutic concentrations, following repeat dosing of 0.5 mg/day, the slower, linear elimination pathway is dominating and the half-life is approx. 3-5 weeks.”
      https://www.medicines.org.uk/emcmobile/medicine/11618#PHARMACOKINETIC_PROPS

    1. Minoxidil has none to marginal effect, several doctors recommend to use dutasteride or finasteride alone and dont waste time and effort on things with no proven long term effect. I have used and know many others who used monoxidil and the only thing we have in common is that we were all bald long before 30.

      Ps, beware of side effect of minoxidil: permanent black rings around the eyes.

      1. Everyone reacts differently. I gave minox 5% a try with zero expectations but had excellent results. Enough so that I hopped on fin a month later with renewed optimism.
        Got the dark circles under the eyes but that’s simply from it rubbing off on your pillow and onto your face. The eye mask thing ppl use to help them sleep was a simple remedy. No more puffy eyes.

  77. I’m 27, and have been using dutasteride (2mg/day) for about 5 years, and it makes a HUGE difference (most my relatives where bald at this age).

    I have two periods of time where I stopped using dutasteride. One for 3 months, the other for about 8 months. And that’s when you notice how incredibly effective it is.

    I also use minoxidil, but I tend to have periods where I completely forget about it with no visible difference. So I can’t tell how much difference I makes, despite my dermatologist heavily insisting that I must use it.

    Luckily I’m from Argentina, where medicine is really cheap, and Avodart only costs me about 25 usd per months.

    I have also tried masotherapy and platet-rich plasma, which are also very effective, but can be pretty expensive. Starting at 100 and 200 usd per month here.

  78. Is anyone worried about penis atrophy, I saw the same side effect listed on a report recently for finasteride (my Dr showed me) and as we know duasteride is much stronger…

    It seems like duasteride makes me tingle down there but I might just be paranoid!!!

    1. I dont believe the atrophy stories on finasteride, all men has sheinking penis with higher age, finasteride been around long time and someone who started at age 35 and is now 60+ and lost an inch penis length did so for natural reasons. We will all experience it, half to one inch lost and less girth, with or without duta. More extreme cases probably have explanations connected to genetics and disese.
      Same as ED, some claim its due to finasteride but look how many men who dont use fina and get ED over a period of only 10 years. 20% of men lose their sexual ability between 40 and 60 without ever touching finasteride.

  79. I have been using Avodart since 2002, switched to generic last year when it became available. I was on propecia before that, probably since 1997. Also have been using Rogaine. I started losing my hair fairly quickly in 1995 or 1996 when I was 25, was likely on track to be completely bald in a few years like my Grandfather. The Rogaine slowed the loss but I’d not stop it. The Propecia seemed to slow it further and possibly stop it. The Avodart seemed to stop it completely and seemed to bring back hair on the top of my head, and also some to my front hairline, although to a lesser extent.

    I have always been able to get it via “off label” prescriptions from my Doctor. I have changed doctors a couple of times over the years due to me movingly, etc, they have never had a problem giving me prescriptions. Sometimes I have even hadn’t it covered by my insurance but most of the time I have had to pay out of pocket. It got pricey in 2014 and 2015, sometimes costing around 2000 per year. Now that the generic is out the price has dropped dramatically, down to around $250 a year and still dropping. I was thinking of going to .5mg every other day when it was pricey but now I have no issue with the cost of taking it every day. I have pretty much what is considered a full head of hair when I would have been bald otherwise.

    I have had no side effects, sexual drive and semen volume were always above average for me and that has continued.

  80. Sorry for my english but is not my first Language.
    I´ve had MPB since 21 (maybe eralier). At that age I started on Fin. Did it for 13 years, From Norwood 1 to 2 in 13 years. After that time I left it for 1 year. And one day I notice I was a Norwood 3. I started it again with minox and and atrted loosing more hair Norwood 3,5. Then started Dut, first month uretra pain. Then nothing. at six month I saw no regroth, so one night broke a pill and rubbed in my scalp, instantly my hair was like strong and strait. Been doing it for 6 month now every day. First 4-5 month no regroth. month 5 i have seen some regrowth, not big… but defentively more hair… Is like I´m the same norwood but with more hair. Hope to keep the regrowth. I´m also trying to make a new Brotzy study. I thought to buy caverject (Alprostadil, PGE1) and mixed with minoxidil, trying to get at least a 0,1% PGE1 (Brotzu uses 0,2%). My only problem with that is that i read that Alprostadil oxidates to fast and can even be bad for health at that point. Someone here now some Chemestry to help me in this experiment. All best and thanks for the site Admin.

  81. Hello again.
    Im 35 I started Avodart 11 months ago, first one pill (0,5mg) and after 4 months one pill everyday. on weekends I stop 2 days.

    I also stopped minox 11 month ago when I started Duta. so my regimen is only Duta once a day 5 times a week.

    pro:
    Hairloss has really slowed down after 11 months. bit of regrow, maybe 5-10%, hair feels stronger.
    less itching, less dandruff
    still regrowing a bit..noticed some vellus hair in front turning darker and stronger. back is defintely stronger.
    didnt loose any ground since 11 month ago where my MPB started getting much more agressive.

    cons: not much; less semen, body hair grows a bit slower

    on top I maybe will start to solve the pills topical with minox.
    Im not sure if I want to jump on the minox train again though, to swallow just a pill makes thing much more easier for me.

    im loosing hope anyway. getting used with the idea of cuttin my hair real short even though i really dont like my head shape.
    maybe Dutasteride will keep my hair like this over the next 5 years, we will see, ill tel you after the next 6 months.
    I had a little procedure done by doc Gho in the netherlands,with 29, i was satisfied at first but after 3 years I was loosing ground again…
    if you read this ..replicel shiseido…tsuji … please do something ! time is running up….

  82. I have been taking dutasteride for about 12 years, with several breaks of a year or two (for various reasons, such as a supplier disapearing, or ceasing to ship to Australia).

    My dosing regime has been 1/day for ten days initial loading-up, then three pills (0.5mg) per week thereafter.
    I have taken at least three generic brands (Dutas, Dutagen, Duprost), chosen only by availability and price.

    I have not noticed any side effects.

    I still have fairly good hair at age 54 – but I can’t say for sure that I would have lost it without dutasteride, as I started taking it when I first thought that it might be receding, and I might have been over-imagining things.
    Based on family members, I had calculated that I had, a priori, a 1/4 chance of having male pattern baldness, as one of my mother’s sister’s sons appears to have this.

  83. I`ve been on dutasteride for 5 weeks now and I can´t say that I have noticed anything as of yet. I used finasteride for 13 months with no improvement before switching over. For the people who have had success with dut:
    When did you notice any results?

  84. Woman here late 20s. I have a looong story of hair thinning and an eating disorder which may have precipitated it, and the entire situation was once a complete nightmare. I sympathize with a lot of the sad comments on here. It sucks for females especially considering most people don’t even know that female pattern baldness is a *thing*. Suffice to say I attempted taking Dutasteride 0.5mg once/daily two separate times with no other changes in my hair loss regimen, and they were complete failures. Both were awhile ago but from what I remember the time period was between 8-10 months. Perhaps not long enough to conclude results but after the first month or two my hair began falling out more and more, and literally did not stop until soon after I quit the drug. Very devastating. Side effects included: increased oiliness in my skin and hair requiring more frequent showers, along with pimples (I normally have beautifully clear skin, which I like to think is a redeeming quality for my wispy, flyaway hair), increased sex drive, and was more prone to excessive anger and irritability. Like others have said I think the blocked DHT increases free testosterone as these seemed like masculinizing traits. I’d be interested to hear other women’s perspectives. There’s a big block on this and similar drugs for women due to possible pregnancy, but I am adamantly child-free so this is not an issue. Someone else also mentioned on here that failure on Avodart may signal that MPB is not the problem – I wonder if this is true for women as well? I’ve been wondering lately if CTE is my problem. Though I’ve had considerable help from Minoxidil, Spironolactone, and Diane 35 birth control pills. Wish I could share something here more helpful. Wishing well to all.

  85. 40 yo male. Losing hair since 18.

    DUT .5mg oral ED for 3 months.

    Pros: Shedding completely stopped. Increase in hair density. Increase in beard & nape hair.

    Cons: BIG decrease in energy & motivation. Some memory difficulties.

  86. I’m at week 6 with Dut and shedding has increased. Before Dut and on Fin (4 years) I was shedding ~15 hairs in the shower…now shedding about 50. It’s scary to see all that hair on the ground but I’m going to keep at it. I have been using minox 2x/day for about 4 years.

      1. I’m still using minox 2x/day. For me minox grew back tons of hair for at 4 months and has since diminished after 4 years, but it is still the best regrowth treatment out there….for me anyways.

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