Dr. Tsuji’s Hair Loss Cure in 2020 will be Costly

Update: English version of video —


For those of us who have been following hair loss cure research for the past half decade, the number one person of interest is Japan’s Dr. Takashi Tsuji. He has previously announced that he is going to release a cure for hair loss in 2020.

Dr. Tsuji’s work is occurring at RIKEN’s major research center in Kobe, Japan in partnership with Organ Technologies (Japan). In June 2019, the doctor gave some interesting quotes to the Financial Times about the future importance of Kobe when it comes to medical tourism. Also in June, Dr. Tsuji gave an important 4 page interview to Beyond Health.

Dr. Tsuji: Hair Loss Cure in 2020 or 2021

Recently, a Japanese hair enthusiast named “Youngjet” posted a video regarding his attendance of a recent lecture in Japan by Dr. Tsuji. Five people emailed me or commented on here about the below video!

After you translate the video, it seems like Dr. Tsuji will release his cure in 2020 and/or 2021. It will initially cost 20 million to 40 million Japanese Yen ($190,000 – $380,000 per today’s exchange rates). Prices will then slowly come down over the next decade.

Perhaps Dr. Tsuji gave us two numbers (20 million and 40 million) because some people will have one session and some will have two sessions?

Note that as of 2019, they are already testing this treatment in humans. Favorable Japanese regulations probably allow for this possibility, even though clinical trials are yet to be completed.

Make sure to see the results of my 2016 poll on how much you would pay for a hair loss cure. Only 12.5 percent of you voted for over $100,000!

— The guy (“Youngjet”) in the below video has the following Twitter account.

— Another Japanese person named “Tonegawa” has more information on these developments.

HLT has an active thread on this where many people are appropriately excited.

Perhaps the most important screenshot from the above video:

Hair Loss Cure in 2020 or 2021.

114 thoughts on “Dr. Tsuji’s Hair Loss Cure in 2020 will be Costly”

  1. At what price point does pathetic male vanity stop? How weak do you have to be to let your feelings of inadequacy overcome your common sense? IMO If you are stupid enough to pay more than 15k treating something cosmetic instead of just dealing with the psychological issues which make you think it’s worth doing… you don’t really qualify as a man anymore, you’re just some angst driven entity floating through life making excuses for himself.

    380K – laughable.

    Accept how you look bald. Try fin. Try minox. Drop 10k max on a Turkish hair transplant. Top it up a few years later. For god sake, move on with your life.

    1. Don’t be a f and talk down to other men, or call their manhood into question. We all have our crosses to bear. If they have the money to spare, which you apparently don’t, I would say they’re more manly than you’ll ever be.

      1. Nah, I’ll talk down to who I want. Get some perspective, 380k is a joke and there are issues much more requiring investment than our reflections. If you have that money to spare and use it for your own vanity, I don’t think your worthy of respect.

        1. Gbh, Wow, look at the tough and judgy anonymous guy insulting people that are interested in a hair loss treatment. How did you find this website again?

          In general, the world is superficial and sensitive to small things. Nature is superficial and sensitive to small things. These are facts. Who are you to judge if people want to spend some coin to look their best? I happen to have a head full of scars, so a real solution to grow hair would help my life in ways you can’t even begin to understand.

          Anyway, thanks for your anti-treatment stance on a hair loss treatment forum. You must’ve accidentally searched for the wrong website.

          1. It is silly but any price is a joke !
            I mean 15k ?! You have quantitatively defined what a “real man” mathematically breaks in a balance of manhood vs vanity and 15k is your bar lol. Silly. What if you were 50 mill plus 200k is a drop in the bucket.

            psychological health is just as important as physical. No one wants disease.

        2. Pathetic male vanity? You sound like an angry feminist. Did you go to the Women’s March with a pink cap and protest the evil orange monster?

          Grow a set. You clearly don’t have any.

          1. Wrong. They’re massive.

            Pandering to vanity is what feminists want for males, it keeps them weak and distracted. If half the guys on forums deleted tinder, their Hairloss would stop being an issue to them I’d bet.

            My point of view comes directly from my masculinist opinions. It comes from the conviction that men should be empowered enough to say “nah this is too much” or “nah, even if I have the cash, I don’t want to partake in a society designed to oppress male mental health” or “nah, with that sum, I could make a difference to the world”.

            Masculinity isn’t about loving your reflection, it’s about loving yourself. I’m not saying HL isn’t a big deal, I’ve been through hell with it. It’s important to indulge oneself too, if it will make you happier treat it. But what I’m saying is that it’s disgusting to consider paying that much for follicles when it could pay a cancer treatment for someone, feed a community for a year, go towards ocean clean up… Tell me how it’s not pathetic to put your looks above that?

            Make Masculinity Great Again!

            1. gbh,

              Masculinity means a man can confidently do whatever the F they want to look and feel their best (short of harming others). Your random thresholds of right and wrong are asinine.

              Or by your “logic”, since you’ve searched for and are now visiting a hair loss website, your concerns are superficial and weak. But maybe that’s an unfair assessment of you, because your “logic” is just BS.

    2. Guess what? Not all hair loss victims are men. Women and children also suffer from hair loss from a number of different diseases and conditions. For a child who must face bullying and loss of self esteem during their most sensitive, formative years, hair loss can be extremely traumatic. Also true for women for whom baldness or sparse hair is definitely not “normal” or accepted by society.
      I would spend $200,000 for a permanent, high-quality cure if I could come up with it.

      1. Answered your own point. Other diseases and conditions, for which other treatments are being released, aka JAK. Another thing, when we see the elite of society scramble desperately for a cure for this “horrific affliction”, that’s what it continues to be. This crap at this price reinforces the angst felt by everyone who can’t access it.

        Drop the moralising crap, it’s voided when you feel your follicles are worth squandering that kind of money on over something truly worthwhile

          1. Yes, just as many are much, much poorer than myself too. A car at least has some utility more than a strand of keratin extending out of your scalp, and furthermore purchasing a car isn’t compounding the loss of a car by others.

    3. Idk, if you were worth $100 million, had a couple nice homes fully staffed, a NetJets account, a fleet of cars, a bespoke wardrobe, why wouldn’t you drop a couple hundred k on looking better?

    4. You’re obviously annoyed because like me you saw ‘cure 20/21’ then got hit with the price tag.

      You obviously are very concerned re: the quality of your life because of hair loss – or you wouldn’t be here.

      It obviously makes a bit of sense, there are hundreds of thousands of men that can afford this. Tycoons, Sports stars, Actors, Musicians just to mention a few. These things will always be done in waves. It also means the company won’t be instantly flooded and become uncoordinated.

      It hurts man but you can’t judge people like that. I would easily pay £200 a month for the rest of my life if it gave me a full thatch on top. Hopefully in a few years it will be financially doable for most of us.

    5. Who is to say 15k is reasonable and not 150k? Why do you think you’re the arbiter of such matters? Get over yourself.

      Nobody appointed you to discern what is essentially a value judgment and proclaim that if others differ with you, then they must have a psychological issue.

  2. @gbh Your words sound like you’re not a man at all. You’re using the shaming language of a bitter over the hill woman. You can’t judge anyone for their motivations behind wanting to cure their hair loss. If someone can afford a 6 figure cure, more power to them.

    1. Nah, think it’s pretty shameless dropping life changing for many amount of money on vanity. Same reason I think super yachts are disgusting, for example.

      1. Everyone agrees your a POS GBH. Your incurring bad karma for yourself by talking like your better than other people. Hope you enjoy your bad karma, cause you won’t!

        1. “You’re”

          Gramma > Karma.

          And my entire point is to try and do people a favour. See thereality for what it is. A life-changing amount of money for some vanity, which won’t fix the true underlying esteem issues. Deak with it if you need to, but don’t sell out to that extent – all it does is reinforce the stigma and divide between those who suffer from MPB and those who don’t. As a victim of it, why support that?

          1. I actually agree. I mean, I’m not here to judge others for being insecure about their hair and I wont tell them what to spend their money on, but what you said is pretty true in my opinion.

  3. LMFAO! What a complete joke! $380,000?! Who in there right mind would honestly spend that much money for something like balding? It something like this that really put’s hairloss into perspective. If you are willing to spend that much money on hair then you really need to be evaulated by a professional psychiatrist because only someone who has serious inferiority issues would ever consider that. This is truly the definition of irony. It reminds me of that South Park episode that had to do with Magic Johnson and the cure for AIDS. If you’ve seen it then you know why this is a joke. If not, do yourself a favor and watch it…it’s hilarious!

      1. makes no sense though that they teamed up with some manufacturing company for mass production or whatever…they’ll maybe have clients in the 100’s max. Instead of millions…maybe that is the max production potential for this method, which is sad.

    1. Relatively high initial costs absolutely make sense, since the Firms have limited amounts of capacities to treat people, whereas on the other side their are hundreds of millions people who would like to get this treatment. It’s kind of a selection, but as others described here already, the products price will probably decrease in the following years, due to factors like increasing capacities, shared patents and hopefully competitors!

  4. I do not understand what is wrong with you guys, finally, this seems (I will be cautious until they will really prove it) the first time in history that a cure for hairloss will come to fruition and you have to moan about the price…
    The price is totally irrelevant as what really matters is the scientific breakthrough of it ( I neither can afford nor willing to pay that money). With time competition will quickly catch up and cheaper alternatives will arise but it is obvious that the first ever treatment will not be available for the average Joe, so let all pray that this indeed true because if it is, we can really start seeing the light at the end of the tunnel.
    @GBH: your comment does not make any sense at all, you are only a man if you are willing to pay up to 15K?? Every pocket is different so it is not a matter of how you are man enough, there are people paying millions of USD for a car or a watch and there are people which would not pay even 100 dollars because they have to survive a month and could not care less.

    1. That’s a fair point – I’m coming more from the perspective that regardless of income, there should surely be a point when our values and self respect comes before our vanity. As in, even those who have it at their disposal see greater value in doing something good with it than having a few more hairs.

      We don’t even have any indication it will work

      1. One could also say that the vast majority of people could afford to send money to charity every month. That going vegan would free up 45% of the earth’s fresh water thus providing clean water to those that need it.

        I guess by your logic there are no men.

        My point is, your perspective is just that. Your perspective. It’s an entirely subjective stance to hold and the very fact you are looking down on others because they don’t share your subjective moral stance is ridiculous. You could be doing more right now to help other people but you aren’t. And to someone else you might seem like a vain selfish prick.

        But from another subjective perspective you can be seen as just and giving.

        It’s subjective.

    2. I’ll tell you why people are kvetching, they are human…

      example
      2017: people complain that hairloss research is too slow and there is no cure. Meanwhile tons of companies more than ever are starting up

      2019: bald people complain that a cure was essentially found in “2020”. Price is too high. Other continues are in phase II or III nearing in.

      2028: people who were bald now have hair, but they are complaining of having grey hair or bad skin.

      something new is a problem. It’s human nature. Personally I can now just relax knowing I’ll be temporarily thinning and slightly bald for a brief few years. I know I’ll be 34 or 35 ( a guys dating prime) with a full head of hair. This is a big chip of my shoulders as I’m young. People don’t realize that you’re right with a free market the price will drop faster than they realize. It won’t be cheap but a fair price compare to today’s hair transplant quality and quantity.

  5. Nonsense.

    A cure for cancer in this price range would make sense. A non life threatening condition cure for that price is simply ridiculous.

    PASS

    1. You would be surprised! The cosmetics market in South Korea is bigger than that in Los Angeles. A common leaving school present for your 16 year old daughter if she gets good grades is either a nose or chin job, so you can imagine how far the elite would go.

    2. Steve Harrington, because of people like you I’m happy in this case that hairloss isn’t considered a severe disease as cancer, otherwise governments would force companies to offer the product for a price accessible for the wide public, leading to elimination and ineffectiveness of Research & Development. The market will solve this sooner or later, but let’s first not take away the companies motivation to simply develop and drop a product. Don’t take it personal buddy;)

  6. I think the initial price is quite irrelevant. If an effective hairloss cure is made available through this treatment, then it is already a huge success for us and will drive solutions for the peasants of more modern means among us losing our hair (which I would personally pay upwards of $60,000 *life time* to treat).

  7. Nobody seems to be asking what the price will pay for?

    Suppose it works, does this treatment promise a full head of hair, forever, that does not require some maintenance package like my hair systems do?

    Or is it just another futile “maintenance” treatment that he won’t dare test on anyone beyond a NW4?

    In any case, I suspect, just like plasma screen TVs, the price will halve every 2 years until eventually everyone has one!

    1. Indeed! The price will come down eventually. We should really discuss what the actual treatment is, how effective it is.
      Admin, are you able to find out more about the treatment?

  8. 2013 – Dr. M. Post et al. first lab-grown meat $300,000 per pound
    2020 – Aleph Farms or JUST lab-grown meat $100 per pound

    3,000 fold price drop within 7 years!

    2020 – Dr. T. Tsuji et al. hairloss cure $380,000
    2030 – Hair follicle culture, spacing and orientation has been fully understood. A laser scans your scalp. 50,000 fine needles penetrate your skin at once and inject your desensitized hair follicles. $126. Thank you. See you again in five years.

  9. I doubt even President Trump would spend that much $$ for hair restoration.

    On a side note, I would like to see a president who is completely bald. Then the most powerful man in the world would be bald.

    Already, the richest person in the world is bald – Jeff Bezos

    1. Jeff Bezos is bald because the treatment is not available yet. Even if the treatment cost 1 million for him , it would be like $10 dollars for you. Richest people in the world pay:
      – $4.5 Billion for a yacht!!
      – $ 450 million, for a Salvatori Mundi painting
      – $ 70 millions for a Ferrari 250 GTO
      – $ 8 mill for an iphone Diamond Rose
      – $3.1 for a tuna.
      – $ 3 mill. for a Tequila Bottle (Pasión Azteca)
      – $ 3 mill for a baseball card, etc, etc,

      1. If he really cared about being bald, he would easily invest in hair loss cure and find one in a matter of months. And invested money would still be a pocket change for him. That’s how rich he is !

  10. I was hoping for something below the 150K dollars mark, even taking into account the fact that Japan is a very expensive country. That said, and as others have pointed out, the sooner this gets started the sooner the price will fall and competition will work its magic. So let’s look on the bright side for a change. Also, there are a number of other companies out there, in the US and Europe, working on different hair multiplication and bio-engineering solutions (not just cloning per se). Let us hope they are also on the market soon and come out with a more affordable initial price.

  11. The prices are just rough estimates and by any means aren’t really set in stone. Like some of you mentioned, you gotta take into consideration what type of NW you are.

    Another possibility which some clinics allows you to do is partial payment over set amount of years. Not sure if that is or ever will be the case for this type of treatment – BUT if this is the cure – AN ACTUAL Cure, and you’re complaining about the price…. Just think about what an amazing breakthrough this.

  12. I have mixed feelings about the presented news. Of course the price is undoubtably high and higher then I personally expected. On the other hand: we have a further and brand new sign that this cure might actually really happen, which is great since at present we have still reason enough to doubt that a possible treatment to bring back a full head of hair is even possible to exist AT ALL. Further, a very high price at least speaks for the quality, unlike replicel/shiseido, where the mentioned price of a few thousand dollars (don’t remember the exact amount) made me really not optimistic to deliver a real cure, rather a partial treatment. I mean think about it, just knowing that finally sth theoretically exists outside there would decrease my depression to a high extent and motivate me a lot to get my ass up and get that cash!

  13. The doctor must be confident that he’s working on the cure not a treatment. I hope this pushes other scientists to work harder to beat dr.Tsuji.

  14. Hey guys….
    In my opinion if the price is so high then the “pool” of customers that can afford it will be depleted within a few years Something like 4-5 years.
    After that the price will go down at least at 60.000 bucks

  15. If this is all true and tsuji confirms this then fellas the cure to baldness has just been found. If he can create 100k hairs for everyone then Mr Tsuji deserves a Nobel Prize for this amazing accomplishment. I bet cristiano and hair clone are shtting their pants now haha. This of course will cost 300k because it’s the holy grail of mpb. I want to say on 5 years it will be around 100k which is about right for a cutting edge cure. This means no more topicals, fin, min, etc. One and done full hair coverage. I like how people are pissed haha. The guy has every right to charge 300k. He solved one of man’s greatest problems. He will get millionaires from all over the world to buy it and pay off his debt etc. Later on us commoners will be able to get it for 50 to 100k. Let’s all wait for the official announcement from tsuji and pictures!!

    Admin if this is true then tour target time like of 2020 was spot on haha

    Good news is for us commoners is that we got SM and Follicle coming out in the next two years to help us till we can afford tsuji.

    1. One thing that is still bothering is the process of their timeline. Please correct me if I’m wrong but they still did not even start testing it in humans right ?

      1. @Red Tsuji said that they’ve been doing “experiments” on humans and that an update will be made near the end of 2019.

    2. @Mjones In complete agreement, Mjones. If this is true, and whoever I’ve talked to said there’s no reason for it not to be, then this is the news we’ve been waiting for. It’s costly but as you said, costs will go down. Just look at tesla. But it’s good that it’s hundreds of thousands and not millions. Then it would be completely unaffordable. But yeah, official announcement would be great but he’s already done a number of interviews with magazines and such, like this one: https://project.nikkeibp.co.jp/behealth/atcl/feature/00003/061200009/?P=1

      This goes to prove that you never really know if something’s true until some news comes out about it.

      1. Deal! You’ve provided a great service to us, it’s only fair to repay you somehow. I would definitely donate to that.

  16. I’m not sure why many people on this site or HLT are complaining of the initial cost of the treatment. The possibility that commercially available cultured neo-follicles are less then two years away is truly exciting. For years, we always heard the infamous “5 years away”. Now the technology has arrived and “5 years away” reflects an affordable price point rather than a viable treatment. The future is finally here, even if the cost is prohibitive for most of us.

  17. Admin, you believe that video is real? Can’t see a reason for it not to be but it’s not official. Anyways, life has a way of getting back at you. I just fell really ill the other day and today I woke up to this tweet. I guess everything evens out. But if this is true then it’s pretty damn cool.

  18. these are the people who speculate on the lives of others, just like those who speculate on terminal illnesses … I prefer to be bald for life than to give money to these monsters.

  19. If this treatment do not bring back at least NW5 to full head of hairs then in my opinion i’ts just a Benny Hill Show.

  20. Every time Riken reassures that a cure is imminent, that is fantastic news! If they say the price will be very high (which would scare investors), then that means they’re just being realistic about their capabilities and that adds legitimacy. I’m thrilled that their time frame is about 1.5 years away. Imagine the hope just seeing photos that it’s possible. Huge companies will buy in and figure out a way to deliver it to the masses quickly. It’ll happen.

  21. when this comes out who cares about the price the only thing important is knowing that its the cure we’ve been waiting for and its finally out.

  22. Admin, please, are you sure that this video is authentic?
    And how much do you believe this is the CURE and not the usually silly treatment?
    You have more experience than us. So, do you have any clue? How to do to know more?

    I am sad that it is costly, but I think it is fair. Because people deserve to be rich for our problem, if they discovered the cure, not the stupid (unuseful) treatment for example like Trinov. These ones deserve to be poor and bald.

    Maybe it is possible to deal the price for the average joe.
    There is the possibility that within ten years there will be another competitor, so they prefer to treat me cheaply today than nothing. And there will be always bald people so a source of money there always will be for them forever.

    1. I asked the same question above .. no answer either. I’ve found Riken, however it is unclear which Riken stock umbrella OT falls under.

  23. If this is true… Truely amazing. I want to see human before and after videos. when I went to see my doctor to get a script filled for Finasteride. I was talking about how we can put people in space and on a different planet but can’t figure out a hair loss cure or better treatments is mind-boggling. Obviously the price is super high. No way in hell I could afford that. Hoping other researchers will reverse engineer their technology and make it more affordable to the general masses. I’m really hoping one day that happens. Every guy and girl that goes through the stress of getting ready in the morning, worrying if there is going to be strong winds or rain, etc. Not to mention your confidence being lowered. The day where we get our hair back and not have to go through the above will be priceless.

  24. Since a hairloss cure would (potentially) improve one’s quality of life and self confidence, it’s important to look at how much quality of life you’d then lose going into debt to pay for it. If you’d have to take out a huge loan (assuming you’d get approved) with a corresponding huge monthly payment akin to a mortgage to pay for it, it’s worth considering if you’d still be able to enjoy life being a debt slave for many, many years if not a few decades just to have a full head of hair again.

    Seems like waiting isn’t so bad, you get to see others’ results beforehand and they will most likely fine-tune the treatment as the price falls.

  25. Anyone think of this…Let the wealthy be Guinea pigs lol. Why would you want to be the first for this? It’s long term effect for health reasons etc. It’s not like this has the extensive trials. Also note they are using the word, “Experiment.” It still has to hit a trial, even by Japan standards.

    If it works… you know you got time if you are in your 20s and 30s…even 40s and 50s. Sit back and see it.

    Meanwhile, you got topical fin, now topical dut being kinked out.

    Idk…maybe it’s my lack of sleep. If this is true, then regular hair transplants must improve or get cheaper….imagine that, the standard gets raised.

    Also since it’s still surgery, other treatments that may come out can be viable. I mean think this.. .if you woke up tomorrow with a treatment that could grow 20% of hair without fin sides.. would you not take it? I guess to some, that wouldn’t he good enough to say great treatment. I get that if you’re a nw 4 or greater. It’s valid to feel that. However, a 3 or less?

    Idk if any company is proposing 20% regrowth with less sides. I haven’t kept up on here as much besides last week when I laid out why I don’t see a prescriber writing a Jak kinase inhibitor for cosmetic. Until that word cosmetic changes to dysfunction or disorder it’s hard to back. Think viagra…treats ,”Dysfunction.”

    Hope news is good when there is confirmation.

  26. Although this is a cure, it would still be nice to figure out a way to reactivate the follicles we already have since that’s still a mystery.

  27. I had a hair transplant with renowned UK based hair transplant surgeon Dr Asim Shahmalak two years ago. What is under reported is the fact hair transplants cannot bring your original hairline back. This was explained to me by the good doctor because of the issue of increasing forehead wrinkles as we age. So, if you’re beyond a certain age (probably late 20s as I was when I had the treatment) a hair transplant will unfortunately have to push the hairline back so it looks more natural with our age now and in the future. This new treatment from Dr Tsuji will not solve this issue as it is still effectively a hair transplant.

    1. It’s not a traditional transplant per say so I don’t see why it can’t be done on any skin that’s capable of having grown hair there in the first place.

    1. This is a great article, thanks for sharing. Does one need to take these specific supplements, eat these specific foods or can you take any probiotic to see similar results?

  28. Lol I could afford it my networth is around 400k early 20 if the price drop down to a 100k I might be in but I think I’ll use up my donor before that

  29. I suspect price will drop pretty fast, or, competitors will jump in with offering sam product with very slight variations. At those numbers, competitors can justify the investment to try and steal market share.

  30. Great news if it’s definitive. The cost is fairly outrageous but I would think I t would drop like a stone as soon as the technology and the system is copied by other companies.
    If it is definitely going to work and I still think it’s a very big IF at this stage, I can’t wait to see the results and for some news reader to say the words “much to the joy of millions of people pattern baldness is now finally a thing of the past” after that. it a case of worrying about getting the money together. Personally i think the astronomically high price is just to get the very rich to the front of the queue, when the demand at that price plateaus Ul see the price drop fairly rapidly I’d guess.

  31. Technically the price isn’t outrageous if you think about it. Since we have 100k hairs on our head tsuji is charging 3 dollars per hair to equal $300k. If you were to go to a top hair transplant doctor who charges 8 dollars a graft which consists of 1 to 3 hairs you are looking at 8 x 100,000 or 8x 70,000 so 560k to 800k for a hair fue transplant. That’s if fue docs could clone hair. My math may be off so feel free to correct me :)

    1. thats my question also, does tsujis process include ttransplanting, or is the price only for cloning the hair follicles? I doupt its including the price of transplanting, since tsuji is not a hair transplant, and its process cannot set the rules for the price of transplant docs. Regeneration of Organs in lab is an expensive process, and every hair follicle is a very tiny organ they reproduce, so probably the price will only be for the cloning the hair follicles. The follicles would then probably sent to an hair transplant, and we’d need to pay additionally money for the transplantation. Maybe it can drop the price of transplanting every follicle, since the work is halved, due the fact, they dont need to graft it from a donor area, but i still doupt a transplantation of 100k hairs will be any cheaper then 1 USD per Hair follicle, since it is long medical process. And also im wondering how many sessions and days would it take to fully reconstruct your hair?

    2. If u don’t think 300,000 dollars isn’t outrageous then you’re either a multi -millionaire or you’re insane. Try getting a loan or a mortgage for 300,000 and when the bank manager asks what the loan is for and you say for a full head of hair, just watch his reaction as he throws the loan application in the bin! Anyone who thinks paying 10,000 a year for 30 years is reasonable for the privilege of having to get a haircut has either too much money or is bordering on obsessed. It’s hairloss it’s not an illness.

  32. and another thing is, i dont know, if a doc is capable of transplanting a fully natural looking hair line. Since nobody so far had the chance to transplant so many hair follicles on one person. Im not familiar with the transplantation process, but i know there is several problems like setting the direction of transplanted hair in a right position etc. These problems exist initial to the hair cloning. So maybe someone who has more knowledge about this issue can answer.

    1. @nk I talked to the Japanese guy who uploaded the video about tsuji (through YouTube comments) and he said that tsuji told him that he will recreate a natural hairline.

  33. To remind people of Admin’s Poll (Top 3):

    10-25k = 812 (24.4%)
    5-10k = 776 (23.3%)
    > 5K = 607 (18.2%)

    So 65% of us won’t go above 25K, and we’re talking about a treatment 15x more expensive than that! Where are they gonna find all these desperate mega-millionaire playboys? (no wife is gonna let her man spend that sum of money, especially if it’s gonna make him more attractive ; )

    “Prices in Japan for hair restorations average at around USD 4 per graft, resulting in a total cost of approximately USD 11,200 for an FUE hair transplant necessitating 2,800 grafts.”

    That’s cheaper than what I would pay at Hasson and Wong (15,695 for 2,800 FUE) in Canada. Any sound mind will opt for the transplant instead, and then “fill in” with Tsuji, if necessary.

    So no way Tsuji! I think we’ll be very pleasantly surprised when the real price is far, far, far below that rumour.

    —Now let’s move on and not give them any crazy ideas : $

  34. Also…

    In the study, they injected 28 bioengineered hair follicle germs into a 1cm² skin area and grew 128 hairs/cm². This is the method they said would be adoptable as a treatment for alopecia patients.

    There’s no way some surgeon / intern is gonna calculate a full head’s worth on a per germ price. How many hours would be spent counting cells under a microscope just to determine the cost. The price will probably be per injection (??).

    **And the elephant in the room, three-hundred-thousand dollar question is: how long before all the new follicles suffer the same fate as the old ones and fall out? Can Tsuji really guarantee lifetime regeneration? He grew new teeth using germs, can they not still decay all the same? So what about these lab hairs?**

  35. This all sounds amazing but why is so much trust put into what this guy says? I feel like I missed something. Is he associated with Tsuji or is a trusted source in the industry?

  36. Dollars but no data.

    Commercialization and pricing is not left to doctors. He may be accurate but as many have pointed out, at that price point they will not have enough demand to balance the investment out. Prices are almost always arbitrary and relevant only to demand. You can discover a new mineral, metal, device that can fly you to the moon but costs billions to produce. If no one purchases your product because you price it too high or there is no practical use for it. That’s why there are professionals, not doctors, who set the price. I’m sure they understand the narrow market for their product at that price point, one that won’t have as high yields, roi, at a lower price point. That coupled with other treatments (current and future) will drive this price down fast. Most men will be content continuing current treatments at much cheaper (remember that we are the few neurotic members of society).

  37. When I see a full set of hair then we can talk about price!

    Regardless, if there is a real cure and someone charges whatever fortune believe the copycats “competition” will quickly step in and compete on price.

    Let’s see the photos before we see the price. We saw the real photos of JAK by Aclaris for their initial study but I think there next round of photos will be better and the increased dose study due next summer should be Sizzling. Just my opinion.

  38. First we need to know that it works and that this really is the cure. We are jumping ahead by discussing price at this early

  39. Admin, after Tsuji releases how long do you think it’ll be before another cloning procedure releases? Because then the price will go down drastically. Companies like stemsom therapeutics or Rapunzel or HairClone aren’t even in human trials yet so how long do you think it’ll be before one of them releases and Tsuji’s price drops?

  40. An answer to the guys that asked about OT stock price. Organ Technologies is a privately held company that it’s government funded. Although, back in June 2018 right after their update they raised 590 millions ¥ (approx. 5.6 mill. US $) from Itochu and Mitchuo. If I am not mistaken, Dr. Tsuji and some of his co-researchers are behind Organ. So they are definitely plotting something behind the scenes. I hope the above is of some help to you.

  41. nasa- if you think the JAK pics were at all decent you have zero expectations!
    If you think they will go from zero to sizzling you are nuts !
    Stop riding JAKs bag and littering the forum with this BS product.

    1. The test subjects were Norwood 4 or less, hardly any loss. They knew JAK would do JAK so they stacked the deck in their favour.

      One of the Japanese players is about to blow them and the other have-a-go-chemists out of the water. It’s just a matter of which one.

  42. Let’s go Follicaaaaaaa!!! The poor man’s option to hair loss :) This is what we need to focus on. Could be released next year. If it can give us 100cm2 then that’s the poor man’s tsuji cure :)

  43. Regardless of costs, seeing photos of a real transformation will provide so much hope and optimism. That said, they’re talking two years max to market, and still no photos.

    Let’s see some photos.

  44. I don’t understand why people are upset about the initial price. It will go down for sure in the coming years as they ramp up production and/or partner with international clinics. It’s also very possible that you could use this to supplement a conventional HT, say 3000 grafts from donor area and 2000 cloned which will definitely be cheaper.

  45. How bad do your genetics have to be if topical finasteride isn’t working? I mean I’m on a pretty low dose (0.1%) and ive only been applying for a month but I think some hairs may still be falling out.

  46. It all sounds like BS to me.

    1. Process has only been tested in mice.
    2. Price can’t possibly be known prior to restoring a full head of hair on a human.
    3. Release date can’t possibly be known prior to restoring a full head of hair on a human.

    Lot’s of other red flags come to mind.

  47. I watched the updated video in English. We don’t hear from anyone credible in it. A guy on YouTube…unless there is more of something else I didn’t see.

    Either way, if it’s true at least it would he there and ppl in 10 years can plan accordingly….and really the first year or two, you’d want others to do it anyway before yourself.

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